Having replied to Frank etc earlier, I decided to check how much activity there was on the other networks. As I write: VatSim has 294 connections ivao.aero has 489 connections ivao.org has 0 connections Pilot club 1 connection (Wulf Kundy) What fascinates me about this is ivao.aero out-performing VatSim anyone any suggestions as to what may be behind this? paul