Well, I've got scripts for AdAware, Audible Manager, and a number of other applications. Doesn't adding them modify the .jss file? Or is it something more esoteric? ud----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Grimsby JR." <jimgrims@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 8:06 PM Subject: RE: success, say all works again Aculaly editing the default.jss is a colmen practus. You do this when you want to add functionality to the default scripts for example the help balloon script or adding a talking clock to jaws or adding a script to allow jaws to inform you when people have signed in to skype etc. fs will edit the default scripts to and so what happens is you edit your they edit theres and some times they are out of sink. The salution is to keep a file that shows all the changes you maid to the default fileand then edit it back in the new fs default.jss What I do is put all the changes I want in a jim.jss file and then just add one line back in after updating my default file include "jim.jss" compile the new scripts and all the functions etc are now there in my new scripts. Hth -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Yardbird Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 5:45 PM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: success, say all works again chris, "quirky" would seem a damn understatement, judging by the misery you've been put through. I wish we could all accept the jaws not only has annoying and inconvenient glitches in every new version, usually something that used to work fine but becomes weird, but it's just so frustrating. Besides which, see, you'll get a problem like this, and I won't, and someone else will get something else, and no one will ever explain the pattern or how these things happen this way, so inconsistently. It's really a bit much, to put it politely. Yet we press on, because the program is such a gift to us who can't see the screen, or see it clearly, and it's really a wonder if you ever think about it as if you were just a tech savvy sighted person learning about it for the first time. it's a really killer app. But it's so goofy, and FS never explains how this weird stuff happens to one user but not to another. Ugh. Well, glad you're functional again, man. Congratulations. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Skarstad" <toonhead@xxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 5:17 PM Subject: Re: success, say all works again I honestly have no clue why it happened, seriously. I had no clue those files were even in my user settings folder, so i didn't even think to look there until that tip came through. guess that's just JAWS being quirky. At 06:51 PM 3/1/2007, you wrote: >Well, this may seem a dumb question, but why didn't this happen to me after >I installed my update earlier today? Does it depend on something you've >done >to configure your personal stuff? > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Chris Skarstad" <toonhead@xxxxxxxxxx> >To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 4:32 PM >Subject: Re: success, say all works again > > >Hi. Basically it was in the default script, so no matter where you >were in windows, didn't matter, at the desktop, in an e-mail message, >text document, wherever. if you pressed insert down arrow, you got >the error message. >I simply deleted those 2 files, default.jsb and default.jss in the >user settings folder and then restarted JAWS and that took care of >everything. > > >At 06:11 PM 3/1/2007, you wrote: > >Chris, > >I'm really glad you've sorted this one out, finally. could you remind me > >in > >which applications Jaws was giving you this message every time you began > >a > >Say All? Was it when you were reading an open email message? While > >reading > >text on a Web page? In Word or another text editor, like NotePad? > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Chris Skarstad" <toonhead@xxxxxxxxxx> > >To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 2:35 PM > >Subject: success, say all works again > > > > > >hi folks > >Ok, I have awesome news. If you update to the latest update, and ou > >receive the message unknown function call to ismagicrunning, i, s, m, > >a, g, i, c, r, u, n, n, i, n, g. > >you can get rid of it just as it was suggested earlier. here's > >*exactly* how to do it. > > > >1. go to start menu. > > > >2. programs > > > >3. JAWS 8.0 sub menu > >4. Explore JAWS sub menu > > > >5. Explore my settings. > >6. press enter. > > > >7. In that folder, with JAWS 8.0 running, no need to shut it down or > >anything, simply delete the files called default.jsb, that's john, > >sam, bravo, and default.jss. > >It won't hurt your system at all. > >8. close down JAWS with insert f4, and then relaunch it with your hot > >key or however you do it, and it will work just as it did before. > >I had never actually deleted any scriptts from my user settings > >folder pertaining to JAWS itself, the only ones I had ever deleted > >had to do with other programs, so that's why I was a little nervous. > >So, it's completely safe to do and works quite well. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > >JFW related links: > >JFW homepage: http://www.freedomscientific.com/ > >Scripting mailing list: > >http://lists.the-jdh.com/listinfo.cgi/scriptography-the-jdh.com > >JFW List instructions: > >To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to > >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. > >Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw > > > >If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or > >the > >way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. 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