Well, Dave, you gave it a college try and we learn something new every day. Now that I cannot turn off the hideous trumpeting of eloquence, I shall be a jaw grinch or scrooge. lol. No more lives torn apart, That wars would never start, And time would heal all hearts. Everyone would have a friend, And right would always win, And love would never end. This is my grown up Christmas list. ----- Original Message ----- From: Dave Durber To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 8:17 PM Subject: Re: no speech quesiton Kerri: The instructions I gave you in my email are correct for versions of JAWS up to Version 9. I followed the instructions given for JAWS 10 and 11, however, in either case, I did not find a "No Speech" option in the list of synthesizers. So, unfortunately, for the time being, I cannot help you any further. Sincerely: Dave Durber ----- Original Message ----- From: Kerri To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 6:46 PM Subject: Re: no speech quesiton Hi, Robert: Thanks for this suggestion. I've done it this way but when I restart the computer, my default eloquence comes back up because I used eloquence prior to having this Braille display. I know I'm a royal pain in the neck but just let it go because it's Christmas grin. No more lives torn apart, That wars would never start, And time would heal all hearts. Everyone would have a friend, And right would always win, And love would never end. This is my grown up Christmas list. ----- Original Message ----- From: robert Doc Wright To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 3:04 PM Subject: Re: no speech quesiton the other way of doing it is insert j arrow to languages open profiles choose no speech and enter This remains until you change it. ----- Original Message ----- From: Kerri To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 3:24 PM Subject: Re: no speech quesiton Hello, Dave, there is no selection in the synthesizer options for start with no speech, the first option is allow wave files with software synthesizers" Do I need to insert a disk and runner repair? No more lives torn apart, That wars would never start, And time would heal all hearts. Everyone would have a friend, And right would always win, And love would never end. This is my grown up Christmas list. ----- Original Message ----- From: Dave Durber To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 1:47 PM Subject: Re: no speech quesiton Kerri: Follow the steps below to permanently turn off speech in JAWS. 1. Press INSERT/JAWS KEY+6, (the number 6 above the letters). This opens the Configuration Manager. 2. Press CTRL+SHIFT+D to load the "default.jcf" (Default JAWS Configuration file. 3. Press ALT+S to open the "Settings" Menu. 4. Press the letter "S" to open the "Synthesizer" dialog box. 5. Press the letter "N" to select the "No Speech" synthesizer option. 6. Press ENTER to accept your choice. This will also close the Synthesizer dialog box and Settings Menu and will return you to the open screen of the Configuration Manager. 7. Press CTRL+S to save the change you made to the "default.jcf" file. 8. Press ALT+F4 to close the Configuration Manager. 9. Press INSERT/JAWS KEY+F4 to close JAWS and press ENTER on the OK button to confirm that you really want to close and unload the JAWS program. 10. If you only have one version of JAWS installed on your computer, press WINDOWS KEY+M, which minimizes all applications and gives focus to the Desktop. 11. Press the letter "J" to highlight JAWS and press ENTER to launch the program. 12. If you have one or, more than one, version of JAWS installed on your computer, press WINDOWS KEY+R to open the "Run" dialog box. 13. Type, "JAWSXX". Replace "xx" with the version number you are using, without the quotes and with no spaces. Press ENTER to start JAWS with no speech. If I am correct, you have been able to do this since JAWS Version 6. The advantage in using steps 12 and 13, is that they can be used anywhere within Windows or within any application. To have JAWS start with speech, follow the steps above, making the appropriate change in step 5. HTH Sincerely: Dave Durber