Re: jaws 7.1 and form fields
- From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 11:34:20 -0700
Hi Rosemarie,
It seems your experience has been pretty much like mine. I'm afraid this is
a Jaws issue only to the extent that Jaws needs accurate page element
labeling, including form fields. Wish it were otherwise, which would put it
within our power to figure out a Jaws-based solution.
As I said, this doesn't happen to me very often. But where it does, my
navigational ability can be so flummoxed that I just can't use the site.
Unfortunately, this is the case with the Web site of my bank, Washington
Mutual. The function for setting up automatic payments was poorly labeled
and unusable and I had to turn to telephone tech support to do it for me,
and they made a lot of mistakes that then others of them had to correct,
while I hassled with people at places like my ISP to refund to me half the
double payments the bank had been making until I figured it out. So, with
no little difficulty, I tracked down the guy in charge of Web site
development and accessibility issues, talked to him on the phone and emailed
with him, and he assured me the next edition of the site would work better.
I left it alone for months, and when I finally went back to try it out
again, found that I couldn't even get through the new security log-in
procedure where they want you to enter information they can refer to to make
sure you're not a hacker and a thief, but now *those* input fields are badly
labeled, which is critical, so I can't input the information as they
request. If I'm determined, I'll have to contact the guy again and hope
that if he's no longer there, someone can help me find his successor.
Sorry to vent, but this can be frustrating.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rosemarie Chavarria" <knitqueen2005@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 10:58 AM
Subject: Re: jaws 7.1 and form fields
Hi, Yardbird. It sounds more like a web site issue than jaws. Sometimes
I've had to turn off forms mode and tab to hear the next field--then go back
into forms mode. For the most part, I can fill out most forms without any
problem but there have been a few sites where forms weren't labeled
properly.
Rosemarie
----- Original Message -----
From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 10:50 AM
Subject: Re: jaws 7.1 and form fields
> I'm using v. 7.0, and it happens on some Web sites but not on most, at
> least
> not most of the ones I frequent and that require such input. My guess is
> that, although possibly Jaws could be tweaked to overcome this when it
> happens (that's conjectured out of ignorance about anything to do with
> coding, I admit), I think it's a problem with the Web site's own page
> design, so that page elements aren't labeled in the sequence that they
> need
> to be for a screen reader, or at least for jaws.
>
> Probably you, like me, have experimented with ways to get around this,
> such
> as by turning off Forms mode, tabbing to the next field and hearing it
> spoken, then turning on forms mode again. But it's a real pain, and
> sometimes that tactic doesn't work, and especially in a form where there
> are
> a lot of fields to fill in, you can just go crazy or get completely lost.
> I'd love to hear others chime in about this, too. I don't think it's a
> version 7.1 issue, exclusively.
>
> m ----- Original Message -----
> From: "GB" <gbmagoo@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 10:41 AM
> Subject: RE: jaws 7.1 and form fields
>
>
> Yes I have the same issue, but not on all web sites.
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of Rob Monitor
> Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 10:39 AM
> To: jfw
> Subject: jaws 7.1 and form fields
>
>
>
> Hi, Does any one else have a problem like this? When I'm filling out some
> thing jfw7.1 says that I'm in the form line above the one I'm really in.
> So
> what I mean is say if I'm putting my user name and then tap down to put my
> pass word it says that I'm still in the user name line but really I'm in
> the
> pass word line... Now if any one understands this and has any ideas please
> let me know...
>
> THANKS ROB
>
>
>
>
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