I did make the adjustments using that startup wizard. I did not know about that speak at log on option at all. Is that new in version 12? But I had never seen the speak at startup option. Only the one that has long been in the basic options to run jaws at startup. Actually until getting this machine, I had never had a log on screen. I only have one user and I am it. Maybe I can shut that off as well in my pc settings. Thank you very much. I have at times run JAWS from the system tray. At present I am not. But that does not seem to effect the change as far as JAWS speaking when Windows is starting up. It should not, should it? Thanks again for all the suggestions Rik