Re: copy command & Jaws 10
- From: Yardbird <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 20:42:39 -0800
Don,
That makes it fail. You're right. It just happens that I seldom use WMP in
the first place, and on the rare occasions when I do happen to have it
running I just never have tried to do any hard drive housekeeping, so to
speak. I exited WMP, shut it down. Now let me see if the effect still
lingers, or whether the copy command speaks again.
Nope. Now if I want to restore speech for those functions, I'll have to exit
Jaws and restart it. No huge deal, but I see now that this can happen. But
you see, it happened all the time to me with the earlier version, not
anything to do with Windows Media Player. It was just what happened to a lot
of people. It would speak copy, cut and paste normally for a while, even
hours, then just quit speaking those functions. And so you'd exit Jaws and
relaunch it. Now, that no longer happens for me in Version 10. Unless I have
the bad luck to have launched WMP, that is! thanks for getting me to
experiment.
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 7:54 PM
Subject: Re: copy command & Jaws 10
Hi Yardbird,
If you launch Windows Media Player 11 and then try the Copy command,
does JAWS report the Copy command?
Don
----- Original Message -----
From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 4:29 PM
Subject: Re: copy command & Jaws 10
> Hi Crystal,
>
> As Mr. Cox says, it's been happening to a lot of Jaws users beginning with
> Jaws 9, or even with version 8, although maybe that's one version too
> many.
> I forget, I got so used to it for awhile. But it's a well-documented
> problem.
>
> first of all, what file list you happen to be in is nothing to do with it
> in
> the sense I think you mean. You're obviously talking about being in a
> folder
> of your hard drive, having gotten to it either via My computer or Windows
> Explorer, right? Well, it doesn't mater that you were in a folder with
> some
> music files. A file is a file in this regard. jaws has no idea if the
> files
> you're trying to copy are .mp3 files or .txt files or whatever. You just
> are
> getting that impression because it happens to you sometimes and not other
> time.
>
> Now, I've been using jaws through all these versions, and on my own
> system,
> it stopped doing this with the installation of Version 10. I thought that
> was because FS had fixed it, finally. But here's one thing to try to make
> it
> behave right, even though you may find this inconvenient. Just unload jaws
> with the Insert F4 command, wait a few seconds, then restart it however
> you
> would (I mean, if you have a hotkey for starting it manually, whether or
> not
> it loads automatically when you start up your computer). The usual hotkey
> is
> Control Alt J.
>
> Jaws will say it's ready, of course. Now try your copy operation again. It
> should speak properly now. As I said, that may be a hassle, but it was the
> way to fix it before FS fixed the bug, or so I thought they had. Sorry to
> hear about this.
>
> And Jerry's suggestion of how to check the clipboard contents is correct,
> so
> when you do that, you'll discover that Windows has copied the files just
> as
> you told it to, but Jaws didn't say so. Same with pasting from that
> operation. I've done this without hearing jaws speak, now and then, and of
> course checked to see that what I wanted to copy really did get pasted in.
> Or cut and copied. Same deal.
>
> Hope this helps. Might I add that if it's really an ongoing problem on
> your
> computer, you should write or call FS tech support and at least report it,
> even if you don't feel like asking for help, which they may not be able to
> give you with this anyway.
>
> Message -----
> From: "G.W. Cox" <gwcox2@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 10:43 AM
> Subject: Re: copy command & Jaws 10
>
>
> It's been a reported bug for a while. Freedom Scientific first blamed it
> on
> the upgrade of Windows Media Player to version 11, but backed off that. An
> apparent appeasement for all the customer-complainers was to create a key
> combo to read the clipboard contents, Jaws key, windows ke and X. At least
> that way you can verify that you copied something when Jaws doesn't say
> "copied."
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Crystal French
> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 11:08 AM
> Subject: copy command & Jaws 10
>
>
> Hi,
> I had not noticed this before using Jaws 10, but in some file lists, when
> I press control+c to copy I do not hear Jaws speak the command.
>
> It doesn't happen everywhere.
>
> Today, it whappened in a list of mp3 files.
>
> Has anyone else noticed this, or is it just some quirk with my computer?
>
> Crystal
>
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