Re: can someone explain the jaws running as a service?

  • From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 07:40:43 -0800

Very well, Bruce.  But in this case, it would help for someone to explain, 
then, just when it is that Jaws doesn't offer a user interface during the 
startup process, if not showing an interface is actually part of the 
definition of what a service is.

Because once the computer is booted, Jaws certainly does have an interface. 
Again, a bit of clarification here would be appreciated.  I don't think this 
should require a Google search.  I think just one, coherent, comprehensive 
explanation by a knowledgeable person would be sufficient.  Not an 
encyclopedic entry among pages of Google hits.  I know I'd be one 
appreciative list subscriber if that kind of information were offered when 
someone knows it.Thanks,
Daniel
From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2005 7:11 AM
Subject: Re: can someone explain the jaws running as a service?


> Ah.  It gets clearer and clearer.  I really appreciate the precision of 
> your
> explanations, Pranav.  Thanks very much.
> Bruce, I hope you read this and see that Running as a service doesn't 
> simply
> mean that you're having it load from the startup group in the way that
> happens when you click Run Jaws Automatically.  As a service, it will load
> earlier than that, even, and must be specially enabled to do so.
>
> This is the end of my curiosity.  I have now learned a new, savvy tech
> terminology, and that's nice.  Thanks again, Pranav.
>
> Happy sunday,
> Daniel
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Pranav Lal" <pranav.lal@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2005 3:36 AM
> Subject: Re: can someone explain the jaws running as a service?
>
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Having a program load at startup does not make it a service. You need to
>> code specially for this.
>>
>> You can treat a program loading as startup like a service which means 
>> that
>> it will load before the desktop is loaded. At that point, you cannot
>> interact with the program.
>>
>> Pranav
>> At 08:34 AM 2/13/2005, Yardbird wrote:
>> So that means that simply having Jaws load during startup does *not* make
>> it
>> run as a service, under this definition?  That's what I've tried to get
>> clarified, earlier.  When you have Jaws run "automatically," meaning to
>> load
>> at startup, it still provides an interface to the user.  You can call up
>> the
>> Jaws menu, in other words.  Whereas, if you load something as a service,
>> as
>>
>> I understand from the below and earlier explanations, there *is* no
>> interface and you aren't meant to access it or use its menus or anything.
>> It just runs without being able to be adjusted by the user.
>>
>> Is this correct?  If so, then this means that simply having Jaws load
>> automatically/during startup does *not* make it a service.  Will someone
>> authoritative on this topic please respond definitively?  Thank you very
>> much.  There have been contradictory statements about this, and no
>> resolution or even acknowledgement that one definition is contradicting
>> the
>>
>> other.
>>
>> Again, thank you.
>> Daniel
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Pranav Lal" <pranav.lal@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2005 6:37 PM
>> Subject: Re: can someone explain the jaws running as a service?
>>
>>
>> > chevelle,
>> >
>> > A service is a program without a user interface. Its like a TSR in dos.
>> >
>> > As for speed, I doubt it. The concept of a service is applicable to the
>> NT
>> > class of operating systems that is right from Windows nt to Windows XP.
>> >
>> > Pranav
>> > At 10:25 PM 2/12/2005, chevelle wrote:
>> > Hi, can someone explain more what is meant by jaws running as a 
>> > service?
>>
>> > Is
>> > that for windows xp pro only or does this concept apply to windows xp
>> > home.
>> > What happens if you change it so jaws doesn't run as a service. Will
>> that
>> > speed up jaws starting quicker. Also someone posted a switch jaws6.0
>> > /default. What is this switch for. thanks.
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