RE: address book interferes with inbox

  • From: "Londa Peterson" <lpeterson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 16:08:08 -0500

If you go to the view menu and press enter on layout, you will find a
checkbox that says "contacts". If you check this box, you can tab between
the folder tree, the message list and the address list.  If you uncheck this
box, then you will only have the folder tree and the message list unless you
have the preview Paine or something else turned on.  Hope this helps.
  -----Original Message-----
  From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf
Of Yardbird
  Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 3:32 PM
  To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  Subject: Re: aaddress book interferes with inbox


  Dear Adrian,
  Well, nothing of the sort is possible for me, no matter what I do.  With
the Address Book open, tabbing won't get you out of it nor get you into it
if you're elsewhere.  And if it isn't open, tabbing around the inbox won't
get you there, either.  Maybe you're accustomed to using the Inbox screen
differently from me; maybe you arrow up to the folders Outlook Express or
Local Folders and play around from those points, but I don't go there, if
you know what I'm describing.  I don't go any higher up on the left hand
pane than  the main folder Inbox,, from which I can tab to the list view of
messages and back again (you don't have to bother with the shift key just to
return to the tree view), or arrow it open and arrow up and down its
subfolders I've created to hold some mail, or further down to the Sent
Items, Deleted Items or Drafts folders.

  anyway, just trying to give you a picture of how I use Inbox, and in this
usage can't use tab or shift tab to either launch Address Book or cycle in
and out of it when it's open.  I am at a complete loss what you might be
describing, which certainly isn't my experience of Outlook Express.

  but let's call it moot now, okay?  Okay.
  thread.
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Adrian Spratt
  To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 11:45 AM
  Subject: Re: aaddress book interferes with inbox


  Yardbird,

  I don't want to torture fellow listers with this thread, so this will be
my last word on it.  Yes, you alt-tab between an open message and the rest
of OE.  However, when a message isn't open, it happens that you can tab or
shift-tab into the address book in the manner I previously described.  I
don't like to do it that way, preferring the control-shift-b shortcut to
avoid confusion.
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Yardbird
    To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 2:27 PM
    Subject: Re: aaddress book interferes with inbox


    Adrian,
    I know that, Adrian.  I mean, that alt tab takes you our into another
open app.  But, you know, it also enables you to cycle around within what
you're doing only in OE, as I've discovered.  For instance, if while I'm
writing this reply in an open message area, and hear an incoming mail sound
and wish to see what sort of email just arrived, I can simply alt tab (yes,
that's what I said) and, even if I have to go through some intervening
visits to other open apps if they come up first, I'll also come to the
Outlook Express Inbox, pristine as before, and then I can examine my
incoming email and see what it was that I just received.  I can even open
the message and read it and, if I wish, leave it open and alt tab back to
the reply I'm writing to you at this moment.

    Try it.  That is what I was referring to.

    Finally, Adrian, I don't know what program you're suing, but in the way
I have Outlook Express set up, to display the Inbox files list view on the
right side and the Outlook Express folders tree view on the left (this is
what displays when you set OE up to open in the Inbox, a very standard
configuration, perhaps the default), tabbing and shift tabbing only take you
back and forth between the files list view with the messages in it and the
folders tree view in the other pane of the window.  That's it.  If the
Address book is opened, it displays atop the main OE screen.  It isn't part
of it.

    Also, I just alt tabbed around out of this message in progress to the
main Inbox screen again, launched the Address Book with my usual hotkey
Control Shift B as in boy, and then experimented with pressing tab and shift
tab to see if they did something different from what I'm accustomed to their
doing.  but no, all you can do in the address book with the tab key and
shift tab is to go back and forth between that initial edit field where you
may type the name of someone whose address you'd like to be taken to, or tab
into the full list of names and addresses.  Back and forth.  That's all tab
and shift tab do within the address book.  They don't put you into any part
of Outlook Express, including the Inbox, and bring you back again to the
Address Book.

    If I've misunderstood your description, please explain.
    Im box hat shf----- Original Message -----
    From: Adrian Spratt
    To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 10:41 AM
    Subject: Re: aaddress book interferes with inbox


    It is possible to tab and shift-tab, not alt-tab, into the address book.
For example, a single shift-tab from the folders list does it.  Alt-tab
takes you into another application.
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: Yardbird


      Hi Donna,

      don't you mean alt -space bar_ x, not the control key?  Also, what you
can maximize with this command isn't "the Inbox," or the entire Outlook
Express interface on your screen, but just one thing-- an open Outlook
Express message.  When you come upon the listing of a message in your Inbox
list view, and click it open, it generally opens in a smallish window that
leaves a lot of other screen elements of the Outlook Express interface
showing around it. When you maximize that open message, it expands to fill
all the space in the display except for the Outlook Express menu line at the
top of the screen, and the status line at the bottom.  This helps to allow
Jaws to read the message accurately, and for you to perform editing and
writing functions accurately in a reply.

      But in any case, the Address book shouldn't just pop up out of
nowhere.  It's not always sitting there as part of the Outlook Express
interface.  To make it appear, you have to call it up either from the OE
menu or with the hotkey command Control shift B.

      So, what this sounds like is that maybe the Address Book is popping up
on its own, mysteriously, and grabbing Jaws's focus.  Now, here's something
I wouldn't have thought of:  Maybe this person launches the Address Book
and, after doing so, never closes it by pressing Escape, but just cycles
back into the main Outlook Express screen (not just the Inbox, but any
feature of Outlook Express) using Alt Tab?  And somehow the Address Book
reappears by some accident, now and then?  I don't know, that's still
mysterious to me.

      Anyway, hope it was of some help to explain the window maximizing
thing.


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