No for xp users this is not a public beta. -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bruce Toews Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2007 9:24 AM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Unknown Function Call To ismagicrunning This is a public beta, people. If you download a public beta, you agree that you are looking for bugs. That's what beta means. If you want a stable version, don't volunteer to be a beta testers. Bruce -- Bruce Toews Skype ID: o.canada E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: DogRiver@xxxxxxxx LiveJournal: http://brucetola.livejournal.com Radio Show and Podcast: http://www.totw.net Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com On Sat, 3 Mar 2007, Robert Hebert wrote: > You're absolutely right, FS definitely should have caught this one. We've all paid deerly for the program---we shouldn't have to fix it too. Furthermore, I am sure only a small percentage of Jaws users subscribe to this list or even if they do, still might have problems making this modification. What happened to the instructions that were in the default J S B and J S S files? Is it the case that these files would be replaced by their counterparts from the all users folder? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chris Skarstad" <toonhead@xxxxxxxxxx> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 11:56 PM > Subject: Re: Unknown Function Call To ismagicrunning > > > Yes, it would appear that my little problem wasn't so isolated after > all. But here's my question, and it may get me in trouble, but oh > well. Shouldn't that bug have been squashed during the beta cycle? I > mean, with as many people as I've seen have that particular issue, > you would certainly think that FS would take steps so that type of > thing doesn't happen, or if users reported it happening, they > should've fixed it. Maybe my standards are too high, but I find it > unacceptable that we should have to delete any files or make any > modifications like that just so our screenreader, one of the most > important pieces of software we use, should work without any kind of > error messages all over the place. If you're a farely new computer > user, or if you just don't know what to do, how can you be expected > to know how to delete those 2 files like we did? Sure that's where > tech support comes in, but what if you write to them and they don't > contact you? > you would receive all kinds of error messages and not know how to fix them. > > > i fully realize that every system is different, and I fully > understand that it's not easy for FS to squash bugs on absolutely > every system out there. But if it's a wide spread problem, I would > like to see them take care of it. In fact, I would really like to > see a maintanance release that fixes all kinds of long-standing > issues I.e. the loads of empty virtual buffers people are seing, the > issue with the s key not going to the same link on a web page, the > other focus issues that happen from time to time, stuff like > that. Yes, having new features is a nice thing, but what good are > those features if the screenreader you're using isn't as reliable as > it could be? At this point, i want a screenreader that just works > and I don't need all the toys. > Just something to ponder. > > > > > > > > At 12:46 AM 3/3/2007, you wrote: >> Thanks, Chris, your clear and concise steps worked like well, shall >> I say, "magic." >> Let me tell you, it was a real joy eliminating that pesky little >> nuisance so great post; thanks again! >> >> >> __________ NOD32 2091 (20070303) Information __________ >> >> This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. >> <http://www.eset.com>http://www.eset.com > > -- > JFW related links: > JFW homepage: http://www.freedomscientific.com/ > Scripting mailing list: http://lists.the-jdh.com/listinfo.cgi/scriptography-the-jdh.com > JFW List instructions: > To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. > Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw > > If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. 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