P.P.S. Maybe this extra description I wrote to a friend on the list privately may help someone imagine this. I wrote: An American cursive hand-written seven is an up-and-down line with a slight curve, with a top line going off to the left a very short distance. In the European style, that upper line is shorter than the American style, so that to some people, a carelessly-written French seven might look an awful lot like a number one. It's an old, old handwriting custom. So they cross the seven in order to make sure it's easily distinguished from the one. In American cursive writing, we never had that problem because we developed our own version with a wider top line, so that no seven ever looks even a little like a one. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 10:33 AM Subject: Re: Strikethrough in a Email address? P.S. These discussion can sometimes get awfully abstract. May I add that I had normal, functional vision until I was over fifty years old, and that I had correspondence with people in Europe, visited Europe, had friends from Mexico city and Buenos Aires, and saw with my own eyes how universal the crossed seven was as a handwriting custom. But believe me, everywhere in the world, the American seven is recognized. The only reason the person write down that email address as they did is what I said below. It's because that's how they write a seven, not how it is on the keyboard or in the email address itself. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 10:21 AM Subject: Re: Strikethrough in a Email address? Bruce, I understand this was handwritten on paper, not something seen on the computer. Okay? That would suggest that the person who wrote down the address always writes a seven like that either as an affectation if they're American, or just habitually since childhood if they were brought up in Europe or Latin America. Those folks always write a seven that way. No matter what they're writing it for. That is the only way they hand write a seven. It has nothing to do with it having appeared in an email address. Do you see what I'm saying? It was not evidence that the email address actually looks like that when you see it on your computer, in an email header. Hope that helps. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce Toews" <DogRiver@xxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 10:09 AM Subject: Re: Strikethrough in a Email address? It was an e-mail address. -- Bruce Toews E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: DogRiver@xxxxxxxx Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com On Mon, 20 Feb 2006, Yardbird wrote: > Steve, > Take it from me. When someone sends a letter snail mail from the U.S. to > Paris, Mexico City, or Buenos Aires, and hand writes an address with a > seven > in it, there's no problem. Everyone simply notices that the envelope must > not have come from someone who writes the seven as they do. You see, it's > just a slight stylistic difference. here in the U.S., the way we learn to > write a seven involves a longer top line than is the European custom or > the > Latin American custom derived from it. There is usually also a difference > in the way the writer flips the top line up a little for a slight > curlycue, > but that's not the most noticeable difference. So it's just an old, > traditional way of making sure to distinguish the one from the seven, but > in > practice is more decorative and stylistic than truly functional, as you > may > be imagining. > > Hope this helps. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Steve Gomes" <finnygomes@xxxxxxx> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 9:40 AM > Subject: Re: Strikethrough in a Email address? > > > maybe he wants the email to get where it is going. That is why he probably > feels obligated to write it the way it appears. ever think of that??? > > > skype name stevegomes > web site > www.rellek.com/stevegomes > phone 720-747-4990 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 8:39 AM > Subject: Re: Strikethrough in a Email address? > > >> Hi, >> You don't have to do that. It's just the way many Europeans and Latin >> Americans write the number seven. Why do you think you're obligated to >> produce a character that looks like it? I'm confused. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Jim Talley" <nrg.jim@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 7:31 AM >> Subject: Strikethrough in a Email address? >> >> >> Hi Listers, someone has given me there Email address on paper, there is >> the >> number seven with a line drawn through it in the address. Can any of >> you >> tell me how to create this character using Jaws? I am using Jaws 7.0 with >> Win XP home. 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