Yes Dave, I have used the summary feature from time to time but in most of my uses of Excel it isn't particularly useful. I understand if you are having workbooks sent to you it would be a bit impractical to use the method I described. So we all have to do what we have to do to get the job done. ----- Original Message ----- From: Dave Carlson To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, May 07, 2010 4:12 PM Subject: Re: Setting up Rows and Columns to be read by JFW Bob, Yes, true enough. However in my job, I received spreadsheets pushed out to a large number of sales engineers, and each time it arrives it's not going to have that nice feature included. So I have to use the old method of either using a JSI file previously created, or assign the titles on-the-fly. I agree that the use of Names is much more elegant and transportable. I also like the summary feature in Excel. Have you used that? Dave From: Bob Verity To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, May 07, 2010 14:02 Subject: Re: Setting up Rows and Columns to be read by JFW An advantage of setting up the row and column title reading as I described is that if you send the workbook to someone else the title reading is already set up and they have to do nothing. ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Verity To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, May 07, 2010 3:23 PM Subject: Re: Setting up Rows and Columns to be read by JFW Using the JAWS verbosity menu is not the prefered way to have row and column titles spoken. You can find a detailed explaination of the better way to do this in the JAWS help for Excel. Here is how it should be done. In the Excel INSERT menu choose name and then define and enter this with your cursor in cell A6: Title.a6.W17.X Where X is the number of the worksheet in the work book. There are other options when there are multiple regions on a worksheet. In the above example note the capital in Title. HTH ----- Original Message ----- From: Lafond, Eileen To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, May 07, 2010 12:16 PM Subject: RE: Setting up Rows and Columns to be read by JFW That was the first thing that I tried and it said that these were already defined, yet it was not working. I tried to manually do it again to get it started and that did not work. Is there a command or something to make it do what is already defined? Thanks, Eileen La fond From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) Sent: Friday, May 07, 2010 9:59 AM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Cc: gbmagoo@xxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: Setting up Rows and Columns to be read by JFW If you mean what I think you mean, you set using the first row and the first column. Hitting the spacebar will either define a value, or supersede what is already there. The headings are row values to column range, and column values to row range. Ted From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Lafond, Eileen Sent: Friday, May 07, 2010 12:52 PM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Cc: gbmagoo@xxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Setting up Rows and Columns to be read by JFW Hi, I had a computer crash at work and I am trying to get everything set back up. The problem that I have right now is setting the rows and columns for my timesheet to be read as I go across and down the spreadsheet entering my hours. In the past, I went into the insert v window and went to Title Reading and set it according to what I thought was correct for reading the columns from A6 to W6. For the rows I wanted the A6 through A17 to be read as I went across and filled in the hours. I have been able to get this to work in the past, but now I have gotten myself very confused and it seems that everything that I try does not work. Can someone tell me the exact items that I need to change to achieve the above settings? I am using JFW version 11 and Excel version 2003. Thanks for any help, Eileen La Fond Work phone: (206 386-0011 email: eileen.lafond@xxxxxxxxxxx