I too have noticed that jaws seems to ignore the insert+f11 command from within an application window. I've seen this happen in windows explorer and in many text editors. If you press windowskey+m to minimize all applications then try insert+f11, you'll have the ability to get to the system tray. hth, and my appolgies if this question has already been answered as I've not checked this list's mail in afew days Sean . -- JFW related links: JFW homepage: http://www.freedomscientific.com/ Scripting mailing list: http://lists.the-jdh.com/listinfo.cgi/scriptography-the-jdh.com JFW List instructions: To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx