Hello Group I used to use "End It All" until I could not get it to work with Windows XP and SP2, so now I am trying PView from the jfwlite web page. The program PView comes up OKAY, but when I try to shut off some of the programs I am told that can not be shut down. I have thirty programs on the PView list Windows Explorer and JFW is included, I know not to Kill these programs, Dud, but not on the rest? One is smt.exe which I assume is Sygate firewall? PView shows all programs to shut down with the Acronyms and I am guessing at which is the one I want to shut down for Norton's and Sygate. With "End It All" everything listed shut down fine and the process was easy, not so for me with PView, Poop! Any suggestions on how to manage this program? Dick -- To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx