It is OE7, technically speaking. For example, all the classes are things like OutlookExpressBrowserClass, Outlook Express Message List, and such. They just renamed it to Windows Mail instead of Outlook Express 7. Most of the MSAA data retrieved by all the screen readers still says Outlook Express. Thanks, Dennis Brown ----- Original Message ----- From: Kheng Wan To: JFW Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 9:23 PM Subject: Outlook express? But its MS Mails! Hi just encountered this using ms mails in vista with jaws 9. When navigating to one of my folders in ms mails, jaws 9 announces 'outlook express message list'. I don't think I can duplicate this again. It happens only once. Perhaps jaws 9 still quite sentimental about outlook express... oh well...