Re: No recovery Disk?
- From: "Farfar Carlson" <dgcarlson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2010 08:36:01 -0800
Gentlemen,
Are we still talking about JAWS here? I'm losing touch with the relevance.
No, I'm not the moderator, but I'm not sure we even have one any more --
haven't seen a peep from either one of them since early November.
Dave
Composed on a Dell Latitude 630 in the general vicinity of my Audio
Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alan Dicey" <adicey@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2010 08:21
Subject: No recovery Disk?
Dear Cy,
What?
No recovery Disk?
Oh my!
Well, things are getting weird!
I know Staples tries, with a Determined passion to sell me an "Extended
Warranty" on each and every thing I purchase there, I think they would try
to sell me an "Extended Warranty" on an Ink Cartridge, or a scotch tape
dispenser if they could!LOL!
But here in Miami, the competition between the three Store Chains, Staples,
Office Max, and Office Depot, is really fierce!
I think I shall keep this Dell XP machine like I did my Gateway Windows 98
machine, for 11 years at least then!
LOL!
Or perhaps by the time I purchase another computer, they will cost like $200
or something
You know "Mores Law"!
LOL!
Thank you for the Holiday Wishes, the same to you and all your family!
And to all on this fantastic List,
May you and your entire families have a wonderful, Happy, Peaceful Holiday
Season.
With Best Regards,
Alan
Miami, Florida
Alan Dicey, President
United States Braille Chess Association - USBCA
"Yes, Blind and Visually Impaired People, Can, and Do, Play Chess!"
United States Braille Chess Association Home Page:
http://AmericanBlindChess.org
----- Original Message -----
From: "Cy Selfridge" <cyselfridge@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2010 11:01 AM
Subject: RE: Toshiba laptop
> Alan,
> I have looked at Staples for the last 2 laptops we have purchased and,
> unfortunately, Office Depot beat them out both times. The local Staples
> (the
> one nearest us) just will not budge.
> The largest issue we found was over a warranty and computer set up.
> Sadly what used to be the norm for purchasing a new computer and having it
> ready to run when you got it home is not longer so.
> Both Staples and Office Depot wanted something like $99 to creat a
> recovery
> disk since you do not get a Windows disk with your computer any more.
> Ridiculous indeed.
> Between all of us we have a Del, Toshiba, Acer and Hp.
> My Hp runs the coolest of any of them. The rest need the little cooling
> station to keep them happy.
> Anyway, here is wishing you and yours a very peaceful and happy holiday
> season.
> Cy,
> The Anasazi
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of Alan Dicey
> Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2010 8:33 AM
> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Toshiba laptop
>
> Dear Cy,
> Staples is competing with Office Max and Office Depot, and my goodness,
> they have some great sales lots of time.
> I purchased my last Seagate External Terabyte Drive for $69.
> I thought that was a Great deal!
> Especially when I purchased my first one about 20 months before at $139!
> LOL!
> Hey, and you know, you can "bargain" with the Store Manager, he can give
> you
>
> up to another 10 percent off if you ask him!
>
> With Best Regards,
> Alan
> Miami, Florida
> Alan Dicey, President
> United States Braille Chess Association - USBCA
> "Yes, Blind and Visually Impaired People, Can, and Do, Play Chess!"
> United States Braille Chess Association Home Page:
> http://AmericanBlindChess.org
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Cy Selfridge" <cyselfridge@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2010 10:05 AM
> Subject: RE: Speaking of Lap Top Computers!
>
>
>> George,
>> Man, you got a whale of a deal. (big smile)
>> Cy
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>> Behalf
>> Of George Marshall
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 9:27 AM
>> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: Re: Speaking of Lap Top Computers!
>>
>> Alan & Cy:
>> I purchased my Toshiba laptop from Staples for about 350 and it has a 10
>> key
>>
>> pad with the full size keyboard. I am not saying the keys are not closer
>> together than a desktop keyboard, they are. The Toshiba I bought has
>> Windows7 and is a 64 bit processor.
>> HTH,
>> George R. Marshall
>> marshall.geoma4@xxxxxxxxx
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Cy Selfridge" <cyselfridge@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 12:18 PM
>> Subject: RE: Speaking of Lap Top Computers!
>>
>>
>>> Alan,
>>> My HP Pavilion has a reasonably decent keyboard. It is a full keyboard
>>> and
>>> the keys are separated far enough to be useable. I have also seen a
>>> Toshiba
>>> full keyboard which is also useable.
>>> I think you will have to get into the $500 to $600 range in order to get
>>> a
>>> laptop which you can easily use. The 17 inch jobs seem to be alright but
>>> the
>>> little web books are just too blamed small. Come to think of it, I
>>> honestly
>>> believe that my HP Pavilion was classed as a netbook and not a laptop?
>>> HTH
>>> Cy, The Anasazi
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Alan Dicey
>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 9:44 AM
>>> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: Speaking of Lap Top Computers!
>>>
>>> Dear Cy,
>>> Speaking of Lap Top computers, I was in Staples the other day,
>>> purchasing
>>> some office supplies, and I was looking at the lap top computers.
>>> I really do not like the flat kind of keyboards they all seem to come
>>> with.
>>> I know I can purchase for as little as $30 a standard keyboard, and plug
>>> it
>>> in with a USB connection, but that seems ridiculous.
>>> Do you know of any lap tops that have a more standard, no, I know one
>>> will
>>> not come with a regular standard keyboard, but something at least a
>>> little
>>> closer to one than those lap top keyboards?
>>> I am looking for a Lap Top that the keys stick up a bit.
>>>
>>> The prices are indeed pretty good for a lap top, around $400 is a great
>>> buy
>>> in my book.
>>> That would be a good way for me to get into Windows 7 little by little,
>>> without having to stress!
>>>
>>> With Best Regards,
>>> Alan
>>> Miami, Florida
>>> Alan Dicey, President
>>> United States Braille Chess Association - USBCA
>>> "Yes, Blind and Visually Impaired People, Can, and Do, Play Chess!"
>>> United States Braille Chess Association Home Page:
>>> http://AmericanBlindChess.org
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Cy Selfridge" <cyselfridge@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 10:02 AM
>>> Subject: RE: Why I am not going to use JAWS
>>>
>>>
>>>> Garth,
>>>> In today's environment the cost of a computer continues to shrink and
>>>> you
>>>> are correct. It is not at all unusual for a person to have a desktop
>>>> and
>>>> a
>>>> laptop and even a netbook.
>>>> I have a new HP laptop, an older Del laptop and an ancient HP desktop
>>>> all
>>>> of
>>>> which I use.
>>>> As things stand now I probably have owned my last desktop as the HP
>>>> Pavilion
>>>> has more hard disk and ram than the old desktop.
>>>> I do have JAWS 11 on both laptops but the desktop still has JAWS 8 and
>>>> it
>>>> works for what I use it for. (LOLLOL)
>>>> Cy, The Anasazi
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>>>> Behalf
>>>> Of garth Humphreys
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 6:14 AM
>>>> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: Re: Why I am not going to use JAWS
>>>>
>>>> I could buy 3 or 4 computers for the cost of Jaws so I hardly think it
>>>> is
>>>> hypocritical.
>>>>
>>>> Garth
>>>>
>>>> On 21/12/2010, at 10:27 PM, "Gerald Levy" <bwaylimited@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Would you mind listing all the specific applications you have found to
>>>> work with that other screen reader? It does not seem possible that an
>>>> open
>>>> source screen reader could work with more applications than JAWS. And
>>>> as
>>>> far as FS's licensing procedure is concerned, most blind users are
>>>> grateful
>>>> just to have one computer, let alone three or four. Anyone who can
>>>> afford
>>>> to own multiple computers can also afford to pay FS's licensing fees.
>>>> To
>>>> me, it is hypocritical for someone who can afford to own more than one
>>>> computer to criticize FS's pricing policies.
>>>>>
>>>>> Gerald
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "chris hallsworth"
>>>> <christopherh40@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 7:05 AM
>>>>> Subject: Why I am not going to use JAWS
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello all.
>>>>>> I will publicly state why I am refusing to use JAWS. It is Freedom
>>>> Scientific's attitude towards pricing and their license schemes. Some
>>>> of
>>>> us
>>>> can't or won't afford to buy JAWS, especially if the free one is just
>>>> as
>>>> good as JAWS. As for the license scheme, the user is punished to
>>>> license
>>>> JAWS on up to three machines. With the free and even other commercial
>>>> screen
>>>> readers one can install on as many computers as they have so long as
>>>> one
>>>> machine is used at a time, no questions asked. With JAWS, once all
>>>> three
>>>> authorizations have been used they would then have to request FS for
>>>> more
>>>> keys. Eventually and I will say eventually they will refuse flat and
>>>> get
>>>> paranoid about people sharing authorization keys. I understand piracy
>>>> and
>>>> all that and I certainly don't commit to any of that stuff however at
>>>> the
>>>> same time FS is just asking for money and not caring about the
>>>> customer.
>>>> True there is a dongle option, but even they can have their fair share
>>>> of
>>>> problems. Now for the technical,
>>>> I do find the free one to be actually more stable and even works with
>>>> more
>>>> applications than JAWS. You may find this shocking but this is true
>>>> according to my personal experience.
>>>>>> Sorry for the rant but you did suggest I state publicly my reasons.
>>>>>> So
>>>> there you go.
>>>>>> Take care.
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Chris Hallsworth
>>>>>> You can contact me at the following channels:
>>>>>> E-mail and Facebook: challsworth2@xxxxxxx
>>>>>> MSN: ch9675@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> Skype: chrishallsworth7266
>>>>>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/christopherh40
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