Re: Speaking of Lap Top Computers!

  • From: "George Marshall" <marshall.geoma4@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2010 11:27:12 -0500

Alan & Cy:
I purchased my Toshiba laptop from Staples for about 350 and it has a 10 key pad with the full size keyboard. I am not saying the keys are not closer together than a desktop keyboard, they are. The Toshiba I bought has Windows7 and is a 64 bit processor.
HTH,
George R. Marshall
marshall.geoma4@xxxxxxxxx
----- Original Message ----- From: "Cy Selfridge" <cyselfridge@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 12:18 PM
Subject: RE: Speaking of Lap Top Computers!


Alan,
My HP Pavilion has a reasonably decent keyboard. It is a full keyboard and
the keys are separated far enough to be useable. I have also seen a Toshiba
full keyboard which is also useable.
I think you will have to get into the $500 to $600 range in order to get a
laptop which you can easily use. The 17 inch jobs seem to be alright but the little web books are just too blamed small. Come to think of it, I honestly
believe that my HP Pavilion was classed as a netbook and not a laptop?
HTH
Cy, The Anasazi

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Alan Dicey
Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 9:44 AM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Speaking of Lap Top Computers!

Dear Cy,
Speaking of Lap Top computers, I was in Staples the other day, purchasing
some office supplies, and I was looking at the lap top computers.
I really do not like the flat kind of keyboards they all seem to come with. I know I can purchase for as little as $30 a standard keyboard, and plug it
in with a USB connection, but that seems ridiculous.
Do you know of any lap tops that have a more standard, no, I know one will
not come with a regular standard keyboard, but something at least a little
closer to one than those lap top keyboards?
I am looking for a Lap Top that the keys stick up a bit.

The prices are indeed pretty good for a lap top, around $400 is a great buy
in my book.
That would be a good way for me to get into Windows 7 little by little,
without having to stress!

With Best Regards,
Alan
Miami, Florida
Alan Dicey, President
United States Braille Chess Association - USBCA
"Yes, Blind and Visually Impaired People, Can, and Do, Play Chess!"
United States Braille Chess Association Home Page:
http://AmericanBlindChess.org


----- Original Message ----- From: "Cy Selfridge" <cyselfridge@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 10:02 AM
Subject: RE: Why I am not going to use JAWS


Garth,
In today's environment the cost of a computer continues to shrink and you
are correct. It is not at all unusual for a person to have a desktop and a
laptop and even a netbook.
I have a new HP laptop, an older Del laptop and an ancient HP desktop all
of
which I use.
As things stand now I probably have owned my last desktop as the HP
Pavilion
has more hard disk and ram than the old desktop.
I do have JAWS 11 on both laptops but the desktop still has JAWS 8 and it
works for what I use it for. (LOLLOL)
Cy, The Anasazi

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of garth Humphreys
Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 6:14 AM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Why I am not going to use JAWS

I could buy 3 or 4 computers for the cost of Jaws so I hardly think it is
hypocritical.

Garth

On 21/12/2010, at 10:27 PM, "Gerald Levy" <bwaylimited@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


Would you mind listing all the specific applications you have found to
work with that other screen reader?  It does not seem possible that an
open
source screen reader could work with more applications than JAWS.  And as
far as FS's licensing procedure is concerned, most blind users are
grateful
just to have one computer, let alone three or four. Anyone who can afford
to own multiple computers can also afford to pay FS's licensing fees.  To
me, it is hypocritical for someone who can afford to own more than one
computer to criticize FS's pricing policies.

Gerald


----- Original Message ----- From: "chris hallsworth"
<christopherh40@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 7:05 AM
Subject: Why I am not going to use JAWS


Hello all.
I will publicly state why I am refusing to use JAWS. It is Freedom
Scientific's attitude towards pricing and their license schemes. Some of
us
can't or won't afford to buy JAWS, especially if the free one is just as
good as JAWS. As for the license scheme, the user is punished to license
JAWS on up to three machines. With the free and even other commercial
screen
readers one can install on as many computers as they have so long as one
machine is used at a time, no questions asked. With JAWS, once all three
authorizations have been used they would then have to request FS for more
keys. Eventually and I will say eventually they will refuse flat and get
paranoid about people sharing authorization keys. I understand piracy and
all that and I certainly don't commit to any of that stuff however at the
same time FS is just asking for money and not caring about the customer.
True there is a dongle option, but even they can have their fair share of
problems. Now for the technical,
I do find the free one to be actually more stable and even works with more
applications than JAWS. You may find this shocking but this is true
according to my personal experience.
Sorry for the rant but you did suggest I state publicly my reasons. So
there you go.
Take care.
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