Hi there, I still cannot get to logging in to a secure site through my isp, I put on forms mode on but I am still getting an error message saying that my log in name or password is incorrect and I am not authticated & I think it may be a Jaws thing because when I ring them up on the help desk they always get in first time! Thanks in advance! One fine day in the middle of the night two dead men got up to fight two blind men to see fair play two deaf mutes to shout hooray a paralysed donkey standing by kicked the blind man in the eye he kicked him through a wooden brick wall into a dry ditch which drowned them all! To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.