RE: Jaws, sound cards and multitasking (was Re: realSpeak)

You know, those folks should try mellowing out with a couple of choruses
of Flinthill Special, or parker's Mood.  If we were lucky, they'd forget
what they were scrapping about.  Oh, if it were only that simple!

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Yardbird
Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 10:22 AM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Jaws, sound cards and multitasking (was Re: realSpeak)


Ted,

Rest assured that your musical references, from bluegrass to bebop and 
beyond, are recognized and appreciated.  I omitted to mention the
miracle of 
good headphones only because I've lost my hearing in one ear due to a
tumor 
in the inner ear canal, and don't really care to listen to much via 
headphones or ear buds now other than for audio literature, except when
I'm 
exercising, when I play music I've converted into mono .mp3 files.
Having 
lost the stereo sound stage, I'm not too enthusiastic about using my
great 
AKG phones anymore.  Not to be confused with A k forty sevens .  Boy,
it's a 
lot of work sometimes to  type something so it sounds correct in Jaws so

people can recognize a common phrase or word, instead of trying to
decipher 
alphabet soup.  Alpha numeric soup. Sort of takes the humor out of a
quick, 
facetious  reference like that, which in conversation or visual typing
would 
elicit a good, if cheap laugh at the image of Third World jihadists,
armies 
and paramilitarys going at each other in the deserts, jungles and 
shell-blasted cities armed with stereo headphones.  Oh, well.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)" <Ted.Lisle@xxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 5:00 AM
Subject: RE: realSpeak


Exactly.  I'm willing to trade off killer sound for the convenience and
comfort of watching a movie in my office on a cold night (it's also the
furnace room, I'm only half as dumb as I look).  Beside, I have a good
headset within easy reach.  If I'm feeling picky, I can get back most of
what I "lost," just by doing that.  I know being a life long fan and
musician makes you listen differently, and at our house, the listening
could range from Hank Williams, or Flatt and Scruggs, right through
Basie or Duke (how about Johnny Hodges?), or even Bird, or Benny Carter.
(Yes, I lean toward reed players, although my real weakness is
percussion.  I always keep track of the drummer, whatever else is going
on.)  However, once again, I digress.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Yardbird
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 4:13 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: realSpeak


Hi Ted,

As I said, I have a very good ear for musical fidelity, and this sound
card
does just fine.  So did the one in my last computer, actually.  It seems
to
me like years ago when I used to hear people worry over which sound card

would play a screen reader clearly, and that sort of thing.  A bunch of
years.  If I really were worried about things like signal to noise ratio
and
frequency range enough to critically test a sound card in those regards,
I'd
have to have an amp and speakers hooked up to the computer that were as
serious as my stereo system, and no, to me, the computer's like a nice,
medium-fi table radio.  As long as it doesn't distort anything within
its
speakers' frequency range capabilities, within the range of volume
levels
possible before hitting an audible  distortion point, I'm just fine.

as for multiple sources, well, as I said, I don't do that.

Thanks.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)" <Ted.Lisle@xxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 1:00 PM
Subject: RE: realSpeak


You probably won't need to worry about it for awhile; from what I know,
that's a good one.  The products have improved a lot over the years.  I
guess it would get down to things like s/n ratio and d/a conversion
quality.  Just a few years ago, it was considered exotic to have
multiple streams going at once--like being able to hear JFW, if
necessary, while playing a CD.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Yardbird
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 2:56 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: realSpeak


Thanks, but would you mind answering a very simple question from someone

inexperienced with these things?  What makes a sound card "better," in
the
way you mean it?  I have a Dell computer of recent vintage, a single
sound
card (I'm not a big techhie, so I have to launch Belarc Advisor to see
what
it is), it's a SoundBlaster Live 24-bit.

Now, I have Jaws with the standard Eloquence software synth, and that
works
and sounds fine.  Sometimes I stream audio or play an .mp3 file or a
music
CD, and that sounds fine, too.  Given this, what use would I make of a
second sound card?  Something specialized that I don't know enough to be

able to imagine, until you tell me?

Thanks.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Vicki Wherry" <amethyst17@xxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 11:33 AM
Subject: Re: realSpeak


I have two sound cards because I used an onboard card, and then I added
a
better sound card later. I use the most recent one, but since I
reformatted
my computer a few weeks ago, I think certain programs try to use the
first
card. I need to disable the onboard card in the bios, and hopefully that
will fix the problem.

Vicki

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 10:09 AM
Subject: Re: realSpeak


Does a person actually need two sound cards in order to make use of
these
extra voices alongside the Eloquence voices?  Or do you use two sound
cards
for some other reason, basically?  I have never heard that I won't be
able
to take full advantage of the Jaws 8 upgrade unless I learn about dual
sound
cards and install something new in the way of hardware.  thanks.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Vicki Wherry" <amethyst17@xxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 8:56 AM
Subject: Re: realSpeak


Your suggestion worked. Now I just need to figure out a way to get it to
recognize my second sound card. I edited the .ini file in JAWS to get
eloquence to work, but that doesn't seem to work for RealSpeak.

Vicki

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chris Jenkins" <saveup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 3:25 PM
Subject: RE: realSpeak


Hello Vicki.

Do you have jaws for Windows starting automatically?  If you have jaws
for
Windows starting automatically it is very possible that the RealSpeak
voices
are coming through the soundcard that was installed last.  To see if
this is
your problem unload Jaws for Windows and restart it.

I hope this helps.

Chris.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf
Of Vicki Wherry
Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 4:19 PM
To: JFW List
Subject: realSpeak

I can't get the realSpeak voices to read in the "say all" mode. The text
is
being read, that is, the curser is moving, but everything is silent. I
somehow got it working yesterday, but I'm not sure what I did. Today,
again,
it's not working. Any suggestions as to what the problem might be? I
installed Jill, Lee, Karen and Emily, and none of them are reading.

Vicki

--
JFW related links:
JFW homepage: http://www.freedomscientific.com/ Scripting mailing list:
http://lists.the-jdh.com/listinfo.cgi/scriptography-the-jdh.com
JFW List instructions:
To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To
unsubscribe
from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with
the
word unsubscribe in the subject line.
Archives located at: http://www.freelists.org/archives/jfw

If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or
the
way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact
the
list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

__________ NOD32 1931 (20061220) Information __________

This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system.
http://www.eset.com


--
JFW related links:
JFW homepage: http://www.freedomscientific.com/
Scripting mailing list:
http://lists.the-jdh.com/listinfo.cgi/scriptography-the-jdh.com
JFW List instructions:
To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.
Archives located at: http://www.freelists.org/archives/jfw

If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or
the
way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact
the
list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

--
JFW related links:
JFW homepage: http://www.freedomscientific.com/
Scripting mailing list:
http://lists.the-jdh.com/listinfo.cgi/scriptography-the-jdh.com
JFW List instructions:
To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.
Archives located at: http://www.freelists.org/archives/jfw

If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or
the
way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact
the
list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx



-- 
No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG Free Edition.
Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.26/594 - Release Date:
12/20/2006
3:54 PM


--
JFW related links:
JFW homepage: http://www.freedomscientific.com/
Scripting mailing list:
http://lists.the-jdh.com/listinfo.cgi/scriptography-the-jdh.com
JFW List instructions:
To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.
Archives located at: http://www.freelists.org/archives/jfw

If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or
the
way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact
the
list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx


__________ NOD32 1934 (20061221) Information __________

This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system.
http://www.eset.com


--
JFW related links:
JFW homepage: http://www.freedomscientific.com/
Scripting mailing list:
http://lists.the-jdh.com/listinfo.cgi/scriptography-the-jdh.com
JFW List instructions:
To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.
Archives located at: http://www.freelists.org/archives/jfw

If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or
the
way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact
the
list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx



-- 
No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG Free Edition.
Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.26/594 - Release Date:
12/20/2006
3:54 PM

--
JFW related links:
JFW homepage: http://www.freedomscientific.com/
Scripting mailing list:
http://lists.the-jdh.com/listinfo.cgi/scriptography-the-jdh.com
JFW List instructions:
To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.
Archives located at: http://www.freelists.org/archives/jfw

If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or
the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather
contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
--
JFW related links:
JFW homepage: http://www.freedomscientific.com/
Scripting mailing list:
http://lists.the-jdh.com/listinfo.cgi/scriptography-the-jdh.com
JFW List instructions:
To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.
Archives located at: http://www.freelists.org/archives/jfw

If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or
the
way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact
the
list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx



-- 
No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG Free Edition.
Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.26/594 - Release Date:
12/20/2006
3:54 PM

--
JFW related links:
JFW homepage: http://www.freedomscientific.com/
Scripting mailing list:
http://lists.the-jdh.com/listinfo.cgi/scriptography-the-jdh.com
JFW List instructions:
To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.
Archives located at: http://www.freelists.org/archives/jfw

If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or
the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather
contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
--
JFW related links:
JFW homepage: http://www.freedomscientific.com/
Scripting mailing list: 
http://lists.the-jdh.com/listinfo.cgi/scriptography-the-jdh.com
JFW List instructions:
To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to 
jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.
Archives located at: http://www.freelists.org/archives/jfw

If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or
the 
way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact
the 
list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx



-- 
No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG Free Edition.
Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.26/594 - Release Date:
12/20/2006 
3:54 PM

--
JFW related links:
JFW homepage: http://www.freedomscientific.com/
Scripting mailing list:
http://lists.the-jdh.com/listinfo.cgi/scriptography-the-jdh.com
JFW List instructions:
To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.
Archives located at: http://www.freelists.org/archives/jfw

If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or
the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather
contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
--
JFW related links:
JFW homepage: http://www.freedomscientific.com/
Scripting mailing list: 
http://lists.the-jdh.com/listinfo.cgi/scriptography-the-jdh.com
JFW List instructions:
To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to 
jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.
Archives located at: http://www.freelists.org/archives/jfw

If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the 
way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact the 
list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Other related posts: