Hi Steve, Thanks for the note on Windows Messenger. I may look back into using that. The situation is that I'd like to use an instant messenger at this point, tried Yahoo, which my sighted wife is using with some family members and friends, just to see how accessible Yahoo was. Then heard good things about both MSN Messenger 5 and AIM. I don't use a Hotmail account any longer and currently have Windows Messenger uninstalled, so would need to look into reinstalling it again, which I know how to do. Yes I noticed after getting MSN Messenger up that it seemed the same as Windows Messenger, but only tried it because I'd heard good things about it. Boy did it do a number on my system though. Anyway, this is also to let you know that a System Restore back to a checkpoint just prior to installing MSN Messenger 5 seems to have done the trick. I was able to run JAWS 5 not as a service and get my SAPI 4 synth detected and pointed back to, and JAWS 5 and 4.51 both seem to be doing fine as of this writing, and I have done a number of tasks just to check it out. Thanks a bunch for that idea; I've done restores in the past that didn't help but in this case it seems to have worked great! -Greg Epley ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve" <k8sp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2004 11:21 AM Subject: Re: Install of MSN Messenger 5 causing JAWS problems > Greg, > > You did a lot of the things I woulod have tried. But, here are a few more > thoughts fwiw: > > First, you can use Windows Messenger rathan than MSN Messenger. They are > identical in functionality for the blind, MSN 6 has extra emodicons and gaming > capability that we can't use. But, having said that, I haven't heard of other > XP users who have chosen to also run MSN having these sorts of problems. > > Before going further, you might go into system restore and restoring your > system to a point just prior to installing MSN Messenger. That hopefully will > solve your JFW freezing problem as well, assuming that you already repaired > JFW. > > > > -- > To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. > Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw > > If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > -- To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx