Re: Employment
- From: "Darrell Shandrow" <darrell.shandrow@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 09:34:36 -0700
Hello Joseph, Patty and others,
Yes, indeed, I usually find that people like this prefer to try taking the
path of least resistance. The path of least resistance in issues such as
this is to discriminate against or otherwise exclude us out of hand, as
people think that approach is easier than actually trying to figure out how
to work with us constructively. I am convinced that, whenever we turn the
tables, making exclusion the most difficult way to deal with us, then we get
progress.
Alas, wouldn't it seem one should expect better treatment from a company
that supposedly works with the disabled. Oh, well, I guess that's why I'm
not rinvolved with the supposed cross-disability rights movement.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 9:21 AM
Subject: Re: Employment
Hi Darrell,
I guess that means another entry in the Blind
Access Journal...
I can see other factors: many people think
that, when a blind person uses JAWS, it is
due to scripts and many think that JAWS
requires scripts in order for blind users to
use their apps. I'm in complete agreement
with Darrell - that there are many software
that works "out of the box" - that is, it
does not require scripts, config files, etc.
Maybe the next move for Patty would be to get
a "sample" of what the application is - that
is, try it and see what happens.
Cheers,
Joseph
> ----- Original Message -----
>From: "Darrell Shandrow"
<darrell.shandrow@xxxxxxxxx
>To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Date sent: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 09:05:22 -0700
>Subject: Re: Employment
>Hello Joseph,
>On the other hand, we also know that a lot of
software works without special
>scripting, or some advanced JAWS users may be
able to perform their own
>scripting or just use the application as it
stands. I believe the
>employer's response below is, at a minimum,
presumptive and probably
>outright discriminatory if pursued to its
ultimate conclusion.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Joseph Lee"
<joseph.lee22590@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 8:56 AM
>Subject: Re: Employment
>Hi Patty, Jennifer and list,
>Well, here's the explanation of what
>"scripting" means:
>JAWS scripting means creating what's called
>scripts for an application so that JAWS can
>effectively work with it. It is like a
>little program on behalf of JAWS. It gathers
>information displayed on the program's screen
>and tells JAWS what to do.
>I think the response should not be treated as
>dismissal, but more towards unavailability of
>JAWS to work with the software in question.
>Cheers,
>Joseph
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Jennifer Aberdeen"
><freespirit328@xxxxxxxxx
>>To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>Date sent: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 10:43:41 -0500
>>Subject: Re: Employment
>>Hi Patty,
>>While I don't have an answer to your
>question, I wanted to just say that I find
>this very strange. Not too long ago, there
>was an article I read in the newspaper about
>this company. They are based in Arizona, and
>the article said that they cater to disabled
>workers. The man in the article was blind,
>and he worked for this company. I don't
>understand why you received that response.
>>Jen
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Patricia Davis
>> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 8:47 AM
>> Subject: Employment
>> Hi Everyone.
>> I don't think this is the right venue for
>my question/request but I'm going to post the
>question anyway in the hopes that someone can
>point me in the right direction.
>> I have been looking for a job and came
>across this company called Arise (Arise.com),
>a home-based customer service type company.
>I haven't even finished the admissions
>process and they have already dismissed me.
>The response I got was as follows:
>> Thank you for your email. Right now we do
>not have any applications scripted for Jaws.
>If one becomes available I will be glad to
>let you know.
>> Best Regards,
>> Regine Janvier
>> Admissions Specialist
>> Can anyone tell me what scripting is and
>how complicated it might be to get a company
>like Arise to do this?
>> If anyone can point me in the right
>direction, I would appreciate it.
>> Sincerely,
>> Patty Davis
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