Re: Choosing Commands to assign to the QAT
- From: "Farfar Carlson" <dgcarlson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 20:25:24 -0700
Alan,
Well in Excel 2007 I have the following:
sort A-Z ascending
Sort A-Z descending
Sort
Goal Seek
Sub Totals
MS-Outlook 2007
Save Attachments
Recall message
Resend message
Word 2007
Convert Table to Text
Convert Text to Table
Dave
Composed on a Dell Latitude 630 in the general vicinity of my Audio Recording
and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area.
----- Original Message -----
From: Alan Dicey
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 19:18
Subject: : Choosing Commands to assign to the QAT
Dear Rose and Friends,
Well, I was stuck the other night thinking of what commands I would want to
assign to the QAT.
The commands I mostly use are second nature to me as short cut key
combinations already, so then why would I want to assign them.
I suppose sooner or later I will think of something.
Thanks for any ideas!
With Best Regards,
Alan
Miami, Florida
Alan Dicey, President
United States Braille Chess Association - USBCA
"Yes, Blind and Visually Impaired People, Can, and Do, Play Chess!"
United States Braille Chess Association Home Page:
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----- Original Message -----
From: Rose Combs
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 8:46 AM
Subject: RE: Question: The Virtual Ribbon
I liked the virtual ribbons at first until I discovered that I could not
find a way to open some messages in my e-mail Outlook 2010. I turned them back
off because I know the keystrokes to accomplish this without having to sort
through menus or spend a lot of time on the ribbons. I have used the ribbons
since Word 2007 came out with Jaws 9 and 10 so it really is more or less second
nature to me by now. Tried them, and for a new user it would probably decrease
the learning curve but for someone who has worked with them for a couple of
years it was not all that much help. Oddly enough I seldom use the QAT not even
for the commands built in, never think of it and I should.
Rose Combs
rosecombs@xxxxx
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Tom Lange
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2011 7:29 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Question: The Virtual Ribbon
Hi,
Yes, it's a JAWS 12 feature. Some people really like it and I can
understand why they do.
But, having said that, you can call me a purist, call me a hard-nose, call
me what you will, while I believe that the so-called "virtual ribbons" may help
some to locate items within the REAL ribbon, I, personally, am not keen on the
virtual ribbons. Here's why:
1. Disabling of key tips: Key tips are those key sequences which, when
pressed, will take you directly to an item within the ribbon and activate it,
no fuss, no muss. You can't use those with the "virtual ribbons" turned on.
2. Isolation from the real interface: while the "virtual ribbon" can help
you to understand how the real ribbon system is structured, you may find
yourself somewhat disoriented if and/or when you have to confront the real
thing with another screen reader (heaven forbid!), or have to describe how a
sighted person might find the item that you're looking for.
Imho, better to spend the time exploring the galleries, the nooks and
crannies of the real ribbon system, and you'll get a better feel of what's
going on in there. Don't rush: be patient, take your time and really explore:
the time you spend doing this will serve you well. .
Just my couple of pennies worth, not quite factored for inflation, ha ha.
Tom
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