Hi, even when using the laptop layout the caps lock won’t allow you to use JKL and the letters above and below as they will act as if you were using the number keypad without the num lock on. peter From: Farfar Carlson Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 7:48 PM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: jaws key + windows key + F4 Brandon, On a laptop you need to use CapsLock + J. CapsLock is the alternate to Insert on a laptop layout, if you have that selected in your JAWS/Options/Basics dialog. Dave Composed on a Dell Latitude 630 in and around my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Jose, California ----- Original Message ----- From: Brandon Keith To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 10:45 Subject: [Bulk] Re: jaws key + windows key + F4 Insert+J on the laptop doesn't do anything. Is there another command to bring up Jaws on the laptop lay-out? Thanks, Brandon Keith Check out MySpace: http://www.myspace.com/brandonkeithcom Also add me on facebook! brandonkeith From: Adrian Spratt Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 10:41 AM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: jaws key + windows key + F4 This is my method, too. fortunately, almost every hard key combination is for a rarely used operation. the one I hate the most is the virtualized window command, reassigned in JAWS 11 to JAWS key-alt-w. but the one no one has complained about is insert-j for the JAWS menus. Now that's unnatural, requiring you to use the left index finger for a key otherwise pressed with the right hand. You'll notice I'm using the desktop layout. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mike & Barbara In Arcadia Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 1:28 PM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: jaws key + windows key + F4 HI Dave; The way I invoke this keystroke is, right little finger on the Insert key, right thumb on the windows key, & press the F4 key with the left index finger. I have small hands so, I have to be creative with some keystrokes that should be part of that game called " Twister ." LOLLOL ----- Original Message ----- From: Farfar Carlson To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 6:07 PM Subject: Re: jaws key + windows key + F4 Michael, That keystroke is supposed to completely (and very quickly) kill JAWS and simultaneously create a debug file dump for analysis purposes. If you didn't notice anything, then perhaps you didn't actually hit the Windows key. I agree with you. Some of these keystrokes actually hurt my 58-year-old fingers. Dave Composed in the Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Jose, California ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Arnowitt" <MA@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 17:19 Subject: jaws key + windows key + F4 Mike mentioned some command of jaws key + windows key + F4. Using the insert key on the numpad, that's a really difficult stretch. In my perfect world, the jaws key would be in the middle of the keyboard right below the spacebar. I hate having to jump all the way over to the numpad with my right hand and frequently have to move my left hand out of position to cover a certain key, then have to move both hands back. Seems so inefficient... btw, what does this keystroke do? I tried it and heard my computer make a little sci-fi sound. Figured I'd better do it a second time to toggle it off, whatever it was. Michael -- JFW related links: JFW homepage: http://www.freedomscientific.com/ Scripting mailing list: http://lists.the-jdh.com/listinfo.cgi/scriptography-the-jdh.com JFW List instructions: To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw Alternative archives located at: http://n2.nabble.com/JAWS-for-Windows-f2145279.html If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx -- JFW related links: JFW homepage: http://www.freedomscientific.com/ Scripting mailing list: http://lists.the-jdh.com/listinfo.cgi/scriptography-the-jdh.com JFW List instructions: To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw Alternative archives located at: http://n2.nabble.com/JAWS-for-Windows-f2145279.html If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx