[jewel] Re: Curious on progress and intent of the Obj-C forkof Jewel...
- From: thisguyisi <thisguyisi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: jewel-dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 00:48:18 -0700
Frank Hale wrote:
>>>Oh really? What does that bell sound like??? =)
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>>*BONG*
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>Its nice that there is some good conversation
>happening on this list. Maybe we can share ideas and
>stuff for future development. I'm currently
>refactoring my perception of the WM and trying to come
>up with new ideas and ways to do stuff. But as with
>all things being truly innovative is not easy and
>usually isn't something that you just do, its
>something that usually comes to you in a dream or an
>epiphany or by some strange fellow in the night
>passing by wispering riddles to you...
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>But I do look forward to bouncing ideas off you guys
>on the list. Maybe you'll feel the same way.
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erm... mine goes... *ding* :-}
Well, about tabbed browsing in general, here are my experiences/ideas on
the subject:
1. I was tickled when Mozilla came out with it. It was reaaally nice
compared to the clutter of say, M$ Internet Explorer and the
clutter/litter of a million unknowably associated windows in a grip of
messy places.
2. Then I found Phoenix/Mozilla Firebird/Soon-Enough-To-Be-"Mozilla
Browser"-Whatever, have watched that hot item progress since version
0.1, and would rather chew off my foot (the left one) than have tabbed
browsing a-la the Tabbrowsing Extension, which makes it oh-so intuitive
and flexible (via oodles of options) (Hey don't be mean, I've been
digging drainage ditches all weekend, drinking, and am in a goofy,
parenthesis-enhanced mood)(oh, and I'm explaining the obvious just in
case you haven't used Phoenix).
For example, I have my installation of it set to make the most use of
the mouse, and since the middle button is convenient, I use it to: open
links in a new tab (which loads in the background) when I middle-click
on a link in the page content, open a new tab if I middle-click the
"empty" space in the tabbar, or close a tab if I middle-click ON the
tab. So it is pretty easy for me to remember that the middle mouse
button deals with tabs and doing stuff with/in tabs.
3. As somebody pointed out somewhere, tabbed interfaces can get messy if
Each And Every application uses its own tab policy and different
implementation. Ugh. That could mean: Mozilla does it _this_ way.
Phoenix does it _that_ way. The window manager does it _its own_ way.
Application "X" does it _some nother_ way, which of course doesn't mesh
with Application "Y" or "Z". Oh, and not to mention, they all (well some
of them) have different preference & configuration
implementations/interfaces, and some you have to hack the source code to
change. Ouch.. --> thisguyisi *cringing*
4. *bright idea* Have the window manager do it. after all, it is
supposed to manage the windows and GUI interface, right? Plus, in the
case of GNUstep, for example, WindowMaker and all applications make use
of a bundle that loads up in Preferences.app, so the tabbed window
options could be located in one spot with conceivably global or
application-specific tabbed window customizations with a single,
universal implementation that _doesn't_ rely on tabbed window code in
ANY application. Seems saner.
Thoughts, Opinions, Rotten Produce?
-thisguyisi
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