ok. right! Got it. thanks for clarifying! absolutely report this to fs! have you done a bug report before? they like it in a particular style really, steps one, 2, 3, etc to describe reproducing the problem. and if it is possible to describe where they might download the application in which this is occurring, this will be of great benefit. although I know that'll probly be the sticking point and difficulty. thing is, if they can't reproduce it, they can't solve it either. Would everyone else reckon this is a distinct OSM problem? I find it interesting though that jaws obvoiusly recognizes at some level that it's on a graphic, because as the man says, it allows him to label it and reflects the label upon insert+G. man! it might be worth investigating what's under the hood of the insert+G script Jitendra, to see if you can morph any of those functions in some way as to actually be able to return the graphic to you. or, conversely, set up HotSpotClicker to click on it, and label it's hotkey properly, thus avoiding the non-solid feel of having no label to click etc. it'd be quicker functionally too. you know about hotspot clicker right? http://www.hotspotclicker.org don't download the stubs for developers, but rather the main installation package if your interested in trying it, and remember there's a separate process of connecting hsc to your application that you desire to use it in, after the normative process of actually installing it. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jitendra" <jeet.invincible@xxxxxxxxx> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 1:54 PM Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: a graphics issue for the checked and unchecked status, > > When I press left arrow or come by any navigation commands to the graphic, > JAWS says only blank, and the only way as I am repeting is JAWS key +G, to > know the graphic lable, but the good thing is: It does not move, you can > check both lable this way: > Do a left arrow on the item with JAWS cursor, insert+g, and see the lable, > escape, then space bar, again insert+G, see the diferent lable, escape. > JAWS doesn't says that it is not set on a graphic. > Now your question: Insert+Numpad 5 reads blank, insert+F reads "No font" > Hope this helps. > Geoff Chapman wrote: What about hitting insert/Jawskey+NumPad 5 though when > your over the graphic. does that say Blank? or does it speak the graphic > label. I.e. i hear you that hitting left Arrow says blank, but I'm wondering > whether this is because it's trying to speak stuff before it's properly > movedto on top of the graphic? just as I've seen in some situations in the > past, where if you moved jawsCursor with insert+left arrow, it would say one > Graphic number that it thought it had now moved to, but then when you > activated the SayWord insert+NumPad5 command, it would speak a different > one!demonstrating to me there were timing and refresh type issues going on. > From: "Jitendra" <jeet.invincible@xxxxxxxxx>[1] To: > <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>[2] Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 4:54 AM > Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: a graphics issue for the checked and unchecked > status, No, the lable is not spoken when left arrow is pressed in jaws > cursoractive,the way is only to guess that we are on the graphic by rute > JAWSto PC, then a left arrow and activating the graphic's labler. Thank you. > David Farough wrote: Perhaps the graphic is not quite in alignment with the > text for the entry. What happens if you activate the Jaws or invisible > cursor, then route cursor to pc cursor, and then do a control left arrow? > Will jaws speak the label for your graphic? If yes, then you could use > GetGraphicNameAtPoint to return the label of the graphic. I wrote the > following test script to test this approach. While focussed on the current > listview entry for a message in my email client, this script: activates the > jaws cursor, routes jaws to pc moves to the prior graphic speaks the result > of the move 1 if successful or 0 says the name of the graphic that was moved > to. This will be the label of the graphic. When I looked up > GetGraphicNameAtPoint in the fsdn, there was no descriptions provided for > therequired parameters for this function. It turns out that GetCursorCol can > be used for the first parameter and getCursorRow can be used for the second > parameter. Here is my test function. Script test () var int iGraphicFound ; > stores the result of the moveToGraphic function SaveCursor () JAWSCursor () > SaveCursor () RouteJAWSToPc () let iGraphicFound = MoveToGraphic > (graphic_prior, true) sayinteger (iGraphicFound) saystring > (GetGraphicNameAtPoint (GetCursorCol (),GetCursorRow ())) EndScript Here is > the fsdn entry for GetGraphicNameAtPoint Function: GetGraphicNameAtPoint > Description This function is used to return the name of the graphic located > at the point specified by the functions two parameters. Returns Type: String > Description: Returns the name of the graphic located at the specified point. > Parameters Param 1: Type: Int Description: No Description Include: Required > Param 2: Type: Int Description: No Description Include: Required Version > Thisfunction is available in the following releases: PAC Mate 1.10 and later > JAWS 4.51 and later David Farough Application Accessibility > Coordinator/coordonateur de l'accessibilité Information Technology > Services Directorate / Direction des services d'information technologiques > Public Service Commission / Commission de la fonction publique Email / > Courriel: David.Farough@xxxxxxxxxxxxx[3][1] Tel. / Tél: (613) > 992-2779Jitendra <jeet.invincible@xxxxxxxxx>[4][2] 11:26 am Wednesday, > January 21, 2009 No, I am sorry, it doesn't David Farough wrote: Does the > GetLine function return the text of your label when the listbox has focus? > Ifyes, you could use StringContains in if logic to speak checked when > appropriate. __________ Visit and contribute to The JAWS Script Repository > http://jawsscripts.com[5][3] View the list's information and change your > settings at //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts[6][4] --- Links --- 1 > mailto:David.Farough@xxxxxxxxxxxxx[7] 2 mailto:jeet.invincible@xxxxxxxxx[8] > 3http://jawsscripts.com[9] 4 //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts[10] > __________ Visit and contribute to The JAWS Script Repository > http://jawsscripts.com[11] View the list's information and change your > settings at //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts[12] __________ Visit > and contribute to The JAWS Script Repository http://jawsscripts.com[13] View > the list's information and change your settings at > //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts[14] > > > --- Links --- > 1 mailto:jeet.invincible@xxxxxxxxx > 2 mailto:jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > 3 mailto:David.Farough@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > 4 mailto:jeet.invincible@xxxxxxxxx > 5 http://jawsscripts.com > 6 //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts > 7 mailto:David.Farough@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > 8 mailto:jeet.invincible@xxxxxxxxx > 9 http://jawsscripts.com > 10 //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts > 11 http://jawsscripts.com > 12 //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts > 13 http://jawsscripts.com > 14 //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts > __________ > Visit and contribute to The JAWS Script Repository http://jawsscripts.com > > View the list's information and change your settings at > //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts > __________ Visit and contribute to The JAWS Script Repository http://jawsscripts.com View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts