[jawsscripts] Re: Speaking a text with a specified voice?
- From: "Octavian Rasnita" <orasnita@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 10:39:37 +0200
Yep, I will try John's solution and if it doesn't work I am thinking to try
your third solution, although I didn't know that the Eloquence API is available
on the net. (Didn't search for it though:)
I was thinking that there may be somewhere that API, once Eloquence is also
used in NVDA...
--Octavian
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stefan Moisei" <vortex37@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 9:20 AM
Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Speaking a text with a specified voice?
> Accessing eloquence directly from a jaws script could be done, I think, but
> it is not going to be easy. I see three options:
> 1. Load the eloquence dll and call the relevant functions. I think you can't
> do this directly. I've found a program which is able to dynamically create a
> com object and call dll functions.
> 2. There is a similar program to eloquence which works via sapi 4. It is
> called IBM ViaVoice. I think you can call sapi 4 from jaws scripts, too.
> 3. Write a separate program which calls eloquence directly using its dll,
> and then call that program from the jaws script.
> The eloquence dll is eci.dll, its api is available on the internet.
> As I've said, these solutions are pretty complex.
> If it works, John's solution would be better, in my opinion
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Octavian Rasnita
> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 8:10 AM
> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Speaking a text with a specified voice?
>
> Hmm, yep, it might be a good idea because accessing SAPI directly doesn't
> actually change the active voice synthesizer used by Jaws.
>
> The possibility of stopping that voice is a must even if it is not done with
> Jaws standard keys like Control, but there is the other problem... the fact
> that if the current synthesizer is WinTalker, I will need to speak the
> English text with Eloquence.
>
> Does anyone know if it is possible to access Eloquence directly as it is
> possible to access SAPI5?
>
> --Octavian
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Stefan Moisei" <vortex37@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 10:39 PM
> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Speaking a text with a specified voice?
>
>
>>I was thinking you could use a separate synthesizer to speak the Romanian
>> messages and simply not change the jaws voice. When the Synthesizer is
>> done
>> talking, jaws would have the same voice as before, since it was never
>> changed.
>> The only problem I see with this approach is that you can't stop the
>> speech
>> using control. There is a method to stop sapi 5 speaking, but I don't know
>> how to intercept the control key in a jaws script. KeyPressedEvent doesn't
>> seem to intercept it.
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Octavian Rasnita
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 10:06 AM
>> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Speaking a text with a specified voice?
>>
>> Thanks Stefan, but it doesn't work because I can change the active
>> synthesizer using scripting functions, however the problem is that I don't
>> know the moment in which to do that change.
>>
>> I want to do something similar to what Jaws is doing when it switches the
>> language when it encounters a text in another language, if the "detect
>> language" feature is active.
>> But I want not only to change the current language of the current loaded
>> synthesizer, but to also load a new synthesizer on the fly, then when it
>> needs to speak in another language, stop the currently running synthesizer
>> in that moment and load another synthesizer.
>>
>> For example, Maestro Translate does the translation using Google
>> translating
>> service.
>> When I press a hotkey to translate a text, if that translation is made
>> from
>> English to Romanian, even if in that moment the user uses English
>> Eloquence,
>> the translated text should be spoken in Romanian with the voice Ivona
>> Carmen
>> for example.
>> But if in the middle of speaking that romanian text the user wants to stop
>> it, he should be able to press Control or another hotkey, and then if he
>> wants to read the title of the window or a text from that window, or to
>> hear
>> the time or do something else, he should be able to hear English Eloquence
>> as before.
>>
>> Or if the user currently uses a SAPI4 synthesizer like WinTalker and
>> translates something from Romanian to English, he should hear the English
>> text spoken with English Eloquence, and after it finishes speaking that
>> text, he should hear WinTalker again.
>>
>> But it seems that Jaws is not that flexible for beeing able to do that...
>> :-)
>>
>> Jaws should consider somehow all the voice synthesizers as beeing a single
>> synthesizer with many voices, and should be able to change easier among
>> them.
>>
>> --Octavian
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Stefan Moisei" <vortex37@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 9:32 PM
>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Speaking a text with a specified voice?
>>
>>
>>> Depending on your requirements, you could use sapi directly from a jaws
>>> script, like so:
>>>
>>> var object o
>>> o=CreateObject("sapi.spvoice")
>>> o.Speak("test")
>>> You would have to manually set the voice, rate and pitch on the object.
>>> I think you can even get the available voices on the system and choose
>>> the
>>> one you want. Search for "sapi.spvoice" to find out what you can do with
>>> this object.
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Octavian Rasnita
>>> Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 6:54 PM
>>> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Speaking a text with a specified voice?
>>>
>>> Yes of course. I used delay(5) as I shown in my first message.
>>>
>>> But you are right, I don't know how to find when the synthesizer finished
>>> speaking so I don't know how much I need to wait.
>>>
>>> But actually the method is not very good, because if the text is 1
>>> kilometer
>>> long and Jaws should speak it for a long time, in that period I am not
>>> able
>>> to shut it down by using the Control key or in another way, but I need to
>>> wait until it finishes.
>>>
>>> --Octavian
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Geoff Chapman" <gch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 4:33 PM
>>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Speaking a text with a specified voice?
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hmmm.
>>>>
>>>> you obviously must've also tried single/multiple pause statements
>>>> between
>>>> the
>>>> Say (StrText)
>>>> and the resetting of the voice profile, have you?
>>>>
>>>> like:
>>>> SetActiveVoiceProfileByName ("Carmen2")
>>>> SayString(sTrText)
>>>> Pause ()
>>>> Pause () ; varying amounts of these.
>>>> SetActiveVoiceProfileByName ("Eloquence")
>>>>
>>>> That still doesn't really help you though probably in the need to find a
>>>> function that informs jaws when the synthesizer has actually done
>>>> speaking
>>>> it's assigned text. especially if your texts are never the same lengths.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Octavian Rasnita" <orasnita@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 6:36 PM
>>>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Speaking a text with a specified voice?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I gave the code in my first message. Here it is again:
>>>>>
>>>>> SetActiveVoiceProfileByName ("Carmen2")
>>>>> SayString(sTrText)
>>>>> SetActiveVoiceProfileByName ("Eloquence")
>>>>>
>>>>> The first line changes the voice to a specified voice profile, then it
>>>>> should speak the message and then it should change the voice profile
>>>>> back
>>>>> to Eloquence.
>>>>> But the third line is executed immediately, and when it is executed,
>>>>> the
>>>>> previously synthesizer is stopped so it doesn't speak anything.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>> Octavian
>>>>>
>>>>> --Octavian
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Dang Manh Cuong" <dangmanhcuong@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 10:22 AM
>>>>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Speaking a text with a specified voice?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>> I don't do that for a long time, but if you could send me your code, I
>>>>>> think
>>>>>> I could help you.
>>>>>> Cuong.
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Octavian Rasnita" <orasnita@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 11:22 PM
>>>>>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Speaking a text with a specified voice?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks, but as I said, I tried in 2 ways:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1. SetActiveVoiceProfileByName ("Carmen2")
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2. I also tried using SetSynth ("eloq") but it didn't help either.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The problem is that when a new voice is activated, it shuts Jaws down
>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> text spoken with the previous voice is not spoken at all.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --Octavian
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Dang Manh Cuong" <dangmanhcuong@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 3:37 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Speaking a text with a specified voice?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>>> Use SetSynth to swich to the synthesizer of choice, and use
>>>>>>>> SetVoicePerson
>>>>>>>> to set name.
>>>>>>>> HTH
>>>>>>>> Cuong
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>> From: "Octavian Rasnita" <orasnita@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 3:07 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Speaking a text with a specified voice?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks Stefan and Doug. Unfortunately it seems that there is no way
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> instruct JAWS to speach a piece of text with a specified
>>>>>>>>> synthesizer,
>>>>>>>>> although I was sure that this should be a simple thing.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --Octavian
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>> From: "Doug Lee" <doug.lee@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 12:45 AM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Speaking a text with a specified voice?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> SpeechInUse() actually tells you only whether or not speech, as
>>>>>>>>>> opposed to Braille output, is being used by the JAWS user. It does
>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>> tell you when something is actually being said.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Feb 09, 2013 at 08:05:57PM +0200, Stefan Moisei wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>> The function SpeechInUse() should tell you if jaws is speaking or
>>>>>>>>>> not.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>> From: Octavian Rasnita
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 5:29 PM
>>>>>>>>>> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Speaking a text with a specified voice?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Is it possible to create a JAWS script that speaks a text with a
>>>>>>>>>> specified
>>>>>>>>>> installed voice, then after it finishes, switch back to the
>>>>>>>>>> default
>>>>>>>>>> voice?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I tried:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> SetActiveVoiceProfileByName ("Carmen2")
>>>>>>>>>> SayString(sTrText)
>>>>>>>>>> SetActiveVoiceProfileByName ("Eloquence")
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> But nothing is spoken. When the function
>>>>>>>>>> SetActiveVoiceProfileByName()
>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>> called the second time, it stops immediately the speech.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I have found this by doing:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> SetActiveVoiceProfileByName ("Carmen2")
>>>>>>>>>> SayString(sTrText)
>>>>>>>>>> Delay (50, TRUE )
>>>>>>>>>> SetActiveVoiceProfileByName ("Eloquence")
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This time the text was spoken as wanted, but I wasn't able to use
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> computer for a few seconds after that, because of the Delay()
>>>>>>>>>> function.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I guess that it is not possible to calculate how much time it
>>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>> take
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> speak a certain text with a specified voice, but isn't possible to
>>>>>>>>>> detect
>>>>>>>>>> somehow when JAWS finished speaking, in order to be able to switch
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> voice
>>>>>>>>>> in that moment?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I also tried using SetSynth ("eloq") but it didn't help either.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --Octavian
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