Ok, have now submitted report to them, and a strange thing was that after uninstalling 11.0.611, in order to get jaws 10.0.1154 to work properly again, I actually seemed to need to go and delete jaws 11 settings folder for some reason, since when then restarted jaws 10.0.1154, it seemed to be alright again, almost as if it was loading something from another versions folder. Will try out slightly older version of 11.0.534 now and see if it makes anything happen I didn't notice last time, and also if it's rendition of the jaws script function GetObjectHelp offers me the same WPF AutomationProperties.HelpText rendition. Stay well Jacob Kruger jacob.kruger@xxxxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jacob Kruger Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 1:36 PM To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Jaws Scripts and WPF AutomationProperties.HelpText property value Wouldn't expect it to be specifically that, but really not sure what exactly is causing this right now. Going to try out a bit more testing, and then definitely submit a beta log report form from that webpage, but let's see... Stay well Jacob Kruger jacob.kruger@xxxxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Sean Randall Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 1:22 PM To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Jaws Scripts and WPF AutomationProperties.HelpText property value Hello, Is it possible they changed the video intercept handling in JAWS 11 for the new interface elements? Would this not also impact on previously-installed versions of JFW? Sean. -----Original Message----- From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jacob Kruger Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009. 12:07 PM To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Jaws Scripts and WPF AutomationProperties.HelpText property value Sorry. WPF (windows presentation foundation) is microsofts new user interface technology/protocol, that's apparently soon to be used in most parts of their newer stuff, and I've also been trying it out/testing development therein myself using visual studio.net 2008 (VS.Net 2008), and trying to see if I can get jaws to work well enough with it to allow me to test my applications etc. etc. This is what the User Interface Automation that's now supposed to be being put into jaws 11 should be targeting as well, and that's why was talking about using functions that have been around in jaws scripting from before, but which seem to work a bit better/differently now in jaws 11. Another problem haven't mentioned yet though is that since started trying out jaws 11.0.611 beta this morning, it's actually interfering with other scripting we already made use of in VS.Net - I think so anyway - and seems to also be making earlier version of jaws 10 react incorrectly even though tried cleaning up that version of jaws with a clean install, but the moment had tested jaws 11 again, it wouldn't do what was meant to in the VS.Net development environment, almost as if jaws 11 was making changes to/adding onto the prior versions interface handling or something. Have just uninstalled it, and will see if version 10 now works again properly, might try out 11.0.534 again since don't think it was causing any hassles, and will be logging this on the beta test page. Stay well Jacob Kruger jacob.kruger@xxxxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Geoff Chapman Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 1:50 PM To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Jaws Scripts and WPF AutomationProperties.HelpText property value dar jacob. man would you care to do a reread, then a quick doubletake/repost of what you were attempting to convey below? I'm kinda having some trouble sorting it exactly? <grin.> of course it doesn't help that I don't know what WPF is exactly as yet, but ... still, sounds like it might've perhaps been related to some other thread that I've somehow missed picking up on or something? could you reenlighten us a tad? thanks. From: "Jacob Kruger" <Jacob.Kruger@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <program-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Cc: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 5:02 PM Subject: [jawsscripts] Jaws Scripts and WPF AutomationProperties.HelpText property value > Just found a jaws scripting function that seems to have been there in > jaws 10 as well, but now in jaws 11, the GetObjectHelp() function does in fact return the new control/object attribute from within WPF that they all seemed to think it would be making use of since started looking at any accessibility guidelines for WPF etc. This is the AutomationProperties.HelpText attribute/property for the controls, and it's contents can also be databound as such, so you could to a certain extent control the rendered content dynamically as such. > > It still however doesn't seem to be getting mentioned by jaws automatically as such, unless you hit the jaws key + F1 key, it'll be included as what is then called context help. > > Currently testing with jaws 11.0.611 beta version for this type of thing. > > Stay well > > Jacob Kruger > jacob.kruger@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > > __________ > Visit and contribute to The JAWS Script Repository > http://jawsscripts.com > > View the list's information and change your settings at > //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts > __________ Visit and contribute to The JAWS Script Repository http://jawsscripts.com View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts No virus found in this incoming message. 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