[jawsscripts] Re: Do Jaws frames work within Internet Explorer
- From: "Geoff Chapman" <gch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 07:34:07 +1000
yeah hey Mark is right! there are heaps of variables to
diagnosing/debugging frames, just like there are scripts.
The variable I myself most thought of checking, was the validation criteria.
i.e. have you taken care to check and insure that the WindowTitle default
criterion, does not contain text, that might've been there when you created
the frame, but which is not there all the time? thus meaning it's dynamic
text? you need of course to insure that the WindowTitle aspect of the
validation frame criteria, does not contain any dynamic text, that might
change, or might not always be there in every circumstance in which you wish
your frame to work?
in other words, insure that your windowTitle of your frame does not contain
any text that you even suspect might not always be there in all
circumstances. given that window titles in IE often adopt heading
information and all sorts of things, this is highliy likely to have been the
case if you haven't edited/checked this.
just leave something like "internet explorer," in that windowTitle, or
something equally generic.
you can of course, also, flip these criteria on/off in your frame's
properties dialog, which can help debug if it is a validation criteria issue
that's causing failure.
could of course be class too, that's altering.
but, the web is so dynamic, that personally I wouldn't have thought frames
would be a particularly reliable way of doing this martin.
I have however, used HotSpot Clicker to enable me to glance at very similar
types of information, as well as chaining hotspots to automate some tasks on
a website I use frequently.
It's not just good for clicking stuff but for speaking stuff too.
HSC methodology has the advantage of being able to dynamically do a search
for certain static text which might be always on the page, like a word
perhaps which might reside at a constant relative distance from the
presumably dynamic information you wish to be able to glance at, and then
using the horizontal/vertical offset parameters, get hsc to Say Word, or
SayChunk, at the correct location.
you can even specify via individual editing of your hotspot definition after
the fact,
not only whether you want to search your page from either top Down, or
bottom up, but, If your sure there are multiple derevations of the
word/phrase you want it to find, you can also specify which occurrance you
want hsc to treat as your match, and to do your offset accordingly before
reading.
i.e. 4th of 6 iterations etc.
Insure that after running through the normative installation instructions,
and then after inserting the
Use "HotspotClicker.jsb"
statement at the top of your IE Script file,
that you search for the heading in the hsc documentation called, "the
KeypresssedEvent,"
which will explain further how you need to connect hsc to the internet
explorer scripts such that it accepts your keystrokes when assigning spots
etc.
I'd also suggest choosing application window relative mode, when the wizard
asks you which relative window mode to use. Don't use currentWindow, and,
again, when the HSC spot definition wizard asks you to remove dynamic
information from each window type, make sure you do that as wisely as you
can. I almost always delete everything in the currentWindow spec, as I've
found it can just change too often and break spots from properly
working/passing validation, if I leave anything in the currentWindow title
spec. so I just leave that one blank, whilst leaving enough in the App
window, realWindow, topLevel window etc, to try and give some kind of
protection against it just functioning anywhere.
BTW, after installation,
The hsc documentation is arrivable
through pressing control+alt+shift+h, then hitting enter on the Open
HotSpotClicker documentation, link, from inside this help virtual viewer
etc.
of course like everything on the web and in jaws, it doesn't always locate
the text in question properly, due to various wierdnesses of Video display
anomalies I reckon, whereby sometimes jaws just can't find text on a webPage
that you can see is there clear as day, but, it's better than nothing.
If you find your frames approach just doesn't give you joy after tinkering
away with them for a bit, then you might like to install hsc and give it a
whirl for what you need.
you can get it from:
http://www.hotspotclicker.org
hth.
geoff c.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark" <torgersonenator@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 2:55 AM
Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Do Jaws frames work within Internet Explorer
> Hi
> There are many variables why a frame may not work. For instance if
the
> screen was maximized when one made the frame and afterwards it is
minimized.
> Then the frame will read the section of the screen where the text was when
> the screen was maximized. I have done this several times myself.
>
> God bless,
> Mark
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Martin Courcelles" <martinfc@xxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 7:51 AM
> Subject: [jawsscripts] Do Jaws frames work within Internet Explorer
>
>
> > hello there,
> > I frequently utilize a web site where I need to know the status of the
> > cart;
> > IE how many products I have purchased or the present amount of my cart.
> > I've tried creating a frame to read this information, but it doesn't
seem
> > to
> > work.
> > Any ideas?
> > Martin
> >
> >
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