[jaws-uk] Re: computers running slowly

  • From: "alex thynne" <alex.thynne@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 12:02:04 +0100

I had a terrible time with chkdsk/f, when I booted up the machine the system
just hung, can't remember how I solved it now, but it seemed as if chkdsk
worked for a while and then stopped.  Jaws went quiet so thought I should
reboot in case it crashed, but then my trouble started..... and I haven't
used that since.  I use defrag, C Cleaner and run the windows disk cleanup
utility regularly.

Alex
klango ID: alex-thynne
skype name: grytpype2006
windows live messenger name: alex.thynne@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of john coley
Sent: 16 October 2008 18:05
To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: computers running slowly


Hi. Although I aggree to a degree it's as well to remember that
fragmentation isn't an occasional thing, it's happening all the time. Unless
your paging file is set to clear at shutdown it will get fragmented over
time too. I think the bottom line is to encourage regular housekeeping, not
just leaving it for weeks or months on end without any care and attention.
Ok, I do mine every day, but it probably wouldn't suffer too much if I only
did it once a week, but I wouldn't dream of leaving it until I removed
something. What about people who never remove anything? Those people do
exist.
                     John.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tiddy Ogg" <oggy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 5:15 PM
Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: computers running slowly


> John, full marks for your analogy, but, even if hardware failure is
> unlikely, shuffling all that data around can cause corruption, so I'd
> suggest that daily defrags are excessive, especially if you don't keep
> making big changes/deletions to your software.
> If you notice a performance downgrade, then fair enough.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of john coley
> Sent: 16 October 2008 17:05
> To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: computers running slowly
>
>
> Hi Dorothy, I think the best way I could explain a defrag is this.
> Imagine a
> large group of children getting onto a bus. If the bus is empty they can
> all
> sit together and where the teacher tells them. If though the bus is
> crowded
> the group is split up and can't go where the teacher wants them, and
> when
> it's time for them to get off the teacher has to spend time looking for
> them.
>  Windows knows where it wants files to be on the disk, and has indexes
> of
> their positions and their details, so it can find them when they're
> needed.
> If a file's fragmented into little pieces it takes windows time to find
> all
> the bits, and sometimes one of the bits gets lost, or windows can't find
> it
> in time, and then you get an error.
>  A disk failure's a rotten experience. I've had a couple in my time,
> but I
> don't think for a minute that defrag could have been to blame at all for
> it.
> A disk is hardware, and windows is software. Windows errors could cause
> a
> software failure, but not a hardware failure.
>  I've had a situation where a virus destroys a disk, but I've only
> known it
> once, and it may have just been coincidence that the disk failed at the
> same
> time, but it was certainly a nasty experience.
>  I would hope that it hasn't totally put you off defragging. Without it
>
> your computer's going to be in a total mess in no time.
>                    John.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dorothy Ingram-Gorban" <dorothy.ingram-gorban@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 3:32 PM
> Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: computers running slowly
>
>
>>
>>
>> John I read with interest and hope andrew will read this 2 years ago
> on
>> my
>> Desktop  Viglen Geni I did my first Defrag ever and with great care.
> The
>> following day I had a HD failure, now andrew suspected the 2 may be
>> connected and tried to explain about Indexes whirling around fast and
>> suppose I may have stopped a few seconds  too early I do not think I
> did
>> but
>> I did have the Hd failure it and its  repercussions,which were due to
>> Engineers making mistakes that are too awful to explain meant I
> ddeveloped
>> a
>> Phobia about ever doing a Defrag. Ps I hope andrew doesnot read this
> but
>> this year I plucked up courage to do them again with  very great
> caution
>> leaving on for hours to be sure. So perhaps John you can explain about
>
>> these
>> things called Indexes whirling around the Pc so the rest can better
>> understand there risks Thanks Dorothy
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "john coley" <johncoley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 12:44 PM
>> Subject: [jaws-uk] computers running slowly
>>
>>
>> Hi everybody, another couple of tips that will help your computer to
> keep
>> running as it should.
>>  Firstly don't let cookies build up. If left to bild up they will have
> an
>> effect on your computer's performance. Some of them can also be
> harmful.
>>  Secondly do a defrag once a day. The less fragmented you let windows
> get
>> the better. It's an obvious thing, but it's amazing how many times
> I've
>> heard of people never defragmenting and wondering why they have
> errors,
>> and
>> why their computer runs increasingly slower.
>>  Lastly for now SFC. If you get error messages it's a good idea to run
>
>> SFC,
>> just in case system files have been altered badly or corrupted.
>>  To do this, put your windows cd in the drive. Shut down the welcome
>> screen
>> when it appears. Go to start and then run, and type:
>> sfc /scannow
>>  You'll hear the cd power up. Windows will scan all its system files
> and
>> replace where necessary. Jaws still works during it, so don't be
> worried
>> about lack of speech feedback.
>>                    John.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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