Hi, That recovery CD doesn't have any Windows setup files on it, but I can't remember if Toshiba put the XP setup files somewhere on the hard drive (I used to have the same laptop co-incidentally as Dorothy, until I sold it to my Sister and got an EEEPC). The issue with Dorothy posting to the list is very strange indeed, but seems to happen with both her machines through the Ecartis software that Freelists are using. We have ruled out different AV products, different SMTP servers, and also turning off AV completely. My theory is either a Windows update broke something or (possibly) one of the alleged Trojans that Kaspersky seemed to find has broken something. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of john coley Sent: 16 October 2008 23:43 To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: computers running slowly Hi Dorothy, is it xp sp3 you're running on your desktop? Is it home or pro? As far as the laptop goes, although I have my doubts and so does Andrew as to whether SFC will work using your toshiba recovery cd if it's reached the stage of kill or cure it can't do any harm to try. If you'd like to try it I'll remind you how. I'll put the command to be put in the run box just as it should be so copy and paste into the run box. First, put your recovery cd into your laptop. When the welcome screen comes up press alt f4 to close it. Then go to the start menu and to run. In the run box paste this sfc /scannow That's it. If it'll work it'll work and if it won't it won't, but it may be worth a try. It really sounds as if your computers are in a bit of a state. Incidentally, if it came to a format and reload is it possible to do without speech feedback? John. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dorothy Ingram-Gorban" <dorothy.ingram-gorban@xxxxxxxxx> To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 6:15 PM Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: computers running slowly > > > Yes John I believe you right now I have to tap enter key 2 or 3 times > before typing at all or odd things will happen and so far no solution have > used a Freelist for testing and just as we think it is a fix it is noot we > are running outof ideas I do not want a reformat at this time since I have > lost all on laptop in June apart from sent items list and due to > circumstances need to be able to get at things fast yes the Viglen has a > Product key and I have added a self powered drive for a daily back up > which > its doing now changed anti virus-virus all to no avail I am using my > laptop > now > and seing yourPost wondered if running the Windows Cd The problem ison > both machines cure the problem > what is to lose I can send an example of the extraneous matter but > hesitate > to inflict on the List Regards Dorothy > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "john coley" <johncoley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 5:57 PM > Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: computers running slowly > > >> Hi Dorothy, there's no accounting for computers. Some days there may be >> more processes running than on other days. Sometimes you may run resource >> hungry applications and on other days, like today, you may have been >> running less and so putting the system under less of a strain. >> As far as defragging goes, as someone said just now you may well be ok >> just running it every week or so. I don't think though that it's only >> necessary when programs are removed. Fragmentation happens all the time. >> Another thing to remember is that if you have a computer crash it's a >> good >> idea to do some computer housekeeping, like a defrag and a chkdsk /f to >> set things right again. >> If you ever get in a fix and need someone to talk you through any of >> these things you're welcome to give me a call. I'll send you my number >> offlist if you'd like. >> John. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Dorothy Ingram-Gorban" <dorothy.ingram-gorban@xxxxxxxxx> >> To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 5:09 PM >> Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: computers running slowly >> >> >>> >>> >>> Please John what is SFC? and please again arn't some cookies useful and >>> I >>> am sure the idea of a daily Defrage will terrify some! unless computers >>> have changed alot. Finally I do have a lot on myDesktop System Tray and >>> some >>> may not be important, but can you tell me this and remember how this >>> thread >>> started. >>> >>> Some days are "sludge days as I said other days like today my computers >>> laptop and desktop are tearing along at a great speed.Why is that? I >>> have >>> altered nothing at all, do have a new Wireless Router since yesterday >>> Regards Dorothy >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "john coley" <johncoley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 12:44 PM >>> Subject: [jaws-uk] computers running slowly >>> >>> >>> Hi everybody, another couple of tips that will help your computer to >>> keep >>> running as it should. >>> Firstly don't let cookies build up. If left to bild up they will have >>> an >>> effect on your computer's performance. Some of them can also be harmful. >>> Secondly do a defrag once a day. The less fragmented you let windows >>> get >>> the better. It's an obvious thing, but it's amazing how many times I've >>> heard of people never defragmenting and wondering why they have errors, >>> and >>> why their computer runs increasingly slower. >>> Lastly for now SFC. If you get error messages it's a good idea to run >>> SFC, >>> just in case system files have been altered badly or corrupted. >>> To do this, put your windows cd in the drive. Shut down the welcome >>> screen >>> when it appears. Go to start and then run, and type: >>> sfc /scannow >>> You'll hear the cd power up. Windows will scan all its system files and >>> replace where necessary. Jaws still works during it, so don't be worried >>> about lack of speech feedback. >>> John. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------- >>> >>> >>> >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >>> Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.8.1/1727 - Release Date: >>> 15/10/2008 >>> 20:02 >>> >>> ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- >>> ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] >>> ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: >>> ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> ** and in the Subject line type >>> ** unsubscribe >>> ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the >>> ** immediately-following link:- >>> ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] >>> ** or send a message, to >>> ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq >>> >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------- >> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >> Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.8.1/1727 - Release Date: >> 15/10/2008 >> 20:02 >> >> >> ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- >> ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] >> ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: >> ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> ** and in the Subject line type >> ** unsubscribe >> ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the >> ** immediately-following link:- >> ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] >> ** or send a message, to ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the >> Subject:- faq >> >> > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** unsubscribe > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > ** immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > ** or send a message, to > ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------- No virus found in this incoming message. 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