[jaws-uk] Re: Starting Jaws with a Braille Display problem

Was it ever possible before to start JAWS with a braille display but
using no speech?  It is also only in the advent of JAWS6 that we have
'flash' messages on the braille display that were mostly or always just
spoken before.  I tend to use speech and braille, braille when I require
more detail.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Roger Fordham" <Roger@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 3:58 PM
Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Starting Jaws with a Braille Display problem


Don't worry Phil; I'm sure the problem is to do with what is called up
in startup, but what I don't know.

Roger

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Phil Medway
  To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 2:50 PM
  Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Starting Jaws with a Braille Display problem


  Sorry then gentlemen,

  The only other thing I can think of, but can't understand why it
should only apply when starting up manually, is that the "Enable Braille
auto detection" box isn't checked in the default Jaws configurations,
Braille settings.

  I use a PowerBraille 40 on a laptop through a USB to serial lead and
have no problems of this sort.  I had to use Com4 because other things
were using the previous three.  It is possible that you are getting a
conflict with something else which is using the same com port but I
would expect that to be a consistent problem every time that Jaws loads.


  Sorry again folks,

  Phil Medway.

    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Colin Baxter
    To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 11:50 AM
    Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Starting Jaws with a Braille Display problem


    No Phil.  These settings are OK on my system too, but thanks for the
effort.

    Colin
      -----Original Message-----
      From: jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Roger Fordham
      Sent: 03 May 2005 07:21
      To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
      Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Starting Jaws with a Braille Display
problem


      No Phil,

      It's nothing to do with that; because if it were, when Jaws
restarted, if no display were the default, then the braille display
still wouldn't, if you see what I mean.

      Roger

        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Phil Medway
        To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 11:36 PM
        Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Starting Jaws with a Braille Display
problem


        Hi Roger and Colin,

        I would hazard a guess that the default display is "no display".

        To check this and to change it to your required display:

        1.    Press JawsKey+j to bring up the Jaws window.

        2.    Cursor right once then up twice to land on Braille and
press enter.  You should hear two things spoken.  The name of the active
display and the name of the default display.

        You need to make the default display the one you wish to become
active at start-up.  To do this:

        1.    Cursor down the list until you land on the required
default display.

        2.    Tab to OK and press enter.

        Note. You may need to reboot or restart Jaws to activate the
setting.

        HTH,

        Phil Medway.





          ----- Original Message ----- 
          From: Colin Baxter
          To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
          Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 9:53 PM
          Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Starting Jaws with a Braille Display
problem


          Hi Roger and all,
          I have a similar probelm, but I get it every time my wife has
been on the PC and switched back to me.  Sometimes, the problem is
caused by the fact that the display has gone to sleep through
inactivity, but this isn't always the case.  I'm running 6.0 and a Handy
Tech Braille Wave.  If I unload and reload Jaws, everything is fine.

          In a way, I'm glad it's not just me.

          Colin
            -----Original Message-----
            From: jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Roger Fordham
            Sent: 02 May 2005 13:47
            To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
            Subject: [jaws-uk] Starting Jaws with a Braille Display
problem


            Hi List,

            Here's a brain teaser. I wish to start Jaws with a Braille
display. All the correct settings have been selected; the braille
display, automatically start Jaws 6.10 at startup, etc. However,
although Jaws speech starts with no problem, whatever I do, the braille
display driver won't start the braille display, and the only way to get
it going is to unload Jaws, and then re-start it, in which case, the
braille comes up fine. And if I choose the option of Jaws not starting
automatically at startup, and then manually start Jaws, the braille
display starts just fine. I am running Xp home, Jaws 6.10, and there
shouldn't be a problem, but there is. I've done the other obvious things
like reinstall selecting the correct components, and Jaws repair; and
each time, the FIRST TIME, the braille display starts, and I think I've
solved the problem. Not a bit, because the next time I reboot, no
braille. Does anyone know where in Jaws the file can be located that
contains the specific instruction to load a braille display, so that I
might edit it. And the other interesting thing is that I have two
displays, a Powerbraille 40, and a Handytech Baum Vario 80, and both
behave exactly the same, so it's not a problem with the actual braille
displays; it must be a problem from within the Jaws Startup. Of-course,
it's only a little problem, and I could start everything manually; it's
just that I shouldn't have to.

            Cheers

            Roger

            Roger@xxxxxxxxxxx


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