Just now, I have had the Iyonix refuse to start up correctly, and end up in VGA mode which then took ages to stop the hourglass circulating. When it did settle, it said disc error 23 on drive4. Clicking on drive 5, it gave the same error message, disc error 23 on 5. Clicking on drive 6 it also gave disc error 23 on 6. Clearly, all 3 drives cannot have gone wrong simultaneously. So, there must be some common-mode failure. Something that will prevent all disc drives from working, and makes tham all report disc error 23, despite them all being perfectly alright. I repeatedly switched the Iyo off at the back and tried again. I did this 6 times over an hour, everytime the same things happened. I then left it switched off for 10 mins, and it booted up perfectly, hence I can now type this message. All 3 discs are perfect, no disc error 23s anywhere! What circumstances can invoke common-mode and false 'disc error 23' errors? -- Cheers Roger Bury Walkers http://burywalkers.members.beeb.net/ Atomic Software http://rogerdarlington.members.beeb.net/ Summer Winers http://rogerarm.freeuk.com/rogerarm/ Bury Hut http://buryhut.members.beeb.net/ Wild Flowers http://rdarlington.members.beeb.net/ SHOUTING is a Capital offence --- To alter your preferences or leave the group, visit //www.freelists.org/list/iyonix-support Other info via //www.freelists.org/webpage/iyonix-support