Yes, but around here its pretty transparent that these guys are lazy a****s or dumba***s. :-) In contrast, you'll see the benighted SBSers assidously work out details after hours and hours of trial and error testing and wondering and retesting, proving that their not lazy a****s or dumba***s, but just unaware of the existing documentation. I place this blame not on the hard working SBS admin, but on the SBS MVP community who isn't aware of the existing resources either because they lack the basic skills to understand them, or just plain refuse to read them for reasons NOS. Tom Thomas W Shinder, M.D. Site: www.isaserver.org <http://www.isaserver.org/> Blog: http://spaces.msn.com/members/drisa/ Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7 <http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7> MVP -- ISA Firewalls ________________________________ From: Amy Babinchak [mailto:amy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 7:48 AM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: Someone Else's Thoughts on ISA Server in SBS http://www.ISAserver.org Of course routing issues or kazaa or skype issues never come up on this list. ;~ Amy ________________________________ From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 8:20 AM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: Someone Else's Thoughts on ISA Server in SBS http://www.ISAserver.org It never ceases to amaze me how SBSers endlessly reinvent the wheel because they don't read the documentation and books that have been out there for years, and lack even the basics of TCP/IP networking concepts. :\ Thomas W Shinder, M.D. Site: www.isaserver.org <http://www.isaserver.org/> Blog: http://spaces.msn.com/members/drisa/ Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7 MVP -- ISA Firewalls ________________________________ From: Dave Milne [mailto:davem@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 1:14 AM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] Someone Else's Thoughts on ISA Server in SBS http://www.ISAserver.org http://blogs.technet.com/isablog/archive/2006/02/14/419476.aspx Dave ------------------------------------------------------ List Archives: http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=isalist ISA Server Newsletter: http://www.isaserver.org/pages/newsletter.asp ISA Server FAQ: http://www.isaserver.org/pages/larticle.asp?type=FAQ ------------------------------------------------------ Visit TechGenix.com for more information about our other sites: http://www.techgenix.com ------------------------------------------------------ You are currently subscribed to this ISAserver.org Discussion List as: tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe visit http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=isalist Report abuse to listadmin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ------------------------------------------------------ List Archives: http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=isalist ISA Server Newsletter: http://www.isaserver.org/pages/newsletter.asp ISA Server FAQ: http://www.isaserver.org/pages/larticle.asp?type=FAQ ------------------------------------------------------ Visit TechGenix.com for more information about our other sites: http://www.techgenix.com ------------------------------------------------------ You are currently subscribed to this ISAserver.org Discussion List as: amy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe visit http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=isalist Report abuse to listadmin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ------------------------------------------------------ List Archives: http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=isalist ISA Server Newsletter: http://www.isaserver.org/pages/newsletter.asp ISA Server FAQ: http://www.isaserver.org/pages/larticle.asp?type=FAQ ------------------------------------------------------ Visit TechGenix.com for more information about our other sites: http://www.techgenix.com ------------------------------------------------------ You are currently subscribed to this ISAserver.org Discussion List as: tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe visit http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=isalist Report abuse to listadmin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx