[isalist] Re: OT: DHCP and static addresses

  • From: "Thor (Hammer of God)" <thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 11:14:52 -0800

Well, yes - the gateway itself should have a fixed IP, and the gateway
on your servers should be fixed as well (if they need that entry).  But
gateway's via DHCP is fine (and expected).



t



From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of D PIETRUSZKA USWRN INTERLINK INFRA ASST MGR
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 11:05 AM
To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [isalist] Re: OT: DHCP and static addresses



Then I should change my gateway to fix ip, right? probably that will
help with some issues I was experiencing on the network



Regards

Diego R. Pietruszka

MSC (USA) - Interlink Transport Technologies



From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Thor (Hammer of God)
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 12:21 PM
To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [isalist] Re: OT: DHCP and static addresses





My buck o' five-- (and not necessarily a reply to your post Tom)



Best practices actually dictate that server resources NOT use DHCP, even
if the address is reserved.  In fact, some server services require
static IP's (like, um, DHCP ;).   This is because it creates a single
point of failure against server resources, which, by their nature, are
"static."  When the end result is the same, that being the machine
always getting the same IP address, having a server depend on another
server (DHCP) just increases potential failure rates - particularly when
multiple-system restarts present boot-order problems.



The question you have to ask is "what do I gain by using reserved IP's
in DHCP?"  When it comes to servers, the answer is "nothing."  In fact,
you actually lose.



DHCP is for clients...  in networks of any consequence, you always have
more than one DHCP server with non-overlapping scopes carved out within
a given subnet even if you are using DHCP relay from off-subnet clients.
In the case of clients, reservations are perfectly acceptable in cases
when you need to easily and consistently match a given IP (as in logs,
etc) to a specific client.   You would make the reservation on all DHCP
servers in scope for redundancy.   There are any number of reasons one
may choose to use reservations for clients, but as others have stated,
any device with a primary purpose of hosting services should have a
static IP so that it will always have it no matter what.



t





From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Thomas W Shinder
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 6:41 AM
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Subject: [isalist] Re: OT: DHCP and static addresses



I tend to avoid DHCP reservations for the same reason that Jim notes.
They suffer from the same kind of network amnesia that hosts and lmhosts
files have.



Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
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        From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jim Harrison
        Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 8:09 AM
        To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Subject: [isalist] Re: OT: DHCP and static addresses

        I prefer static for servers & devices (print servers, etc.);
DHCP for all else..

        If you ever replace a server NIC and you forget to change the
MAC in the DHCP reservation, your server could be unavailable until you
either re-register the IP or fix the reservation.

        It's just a question of "how solid is your process control?"

        

        Jim

        

        

        From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Amy Babinchak
        Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 5:49 AM
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        Subject: [isalist] Re: OT: DHCP and static addresses

        

        I always use the DHCP method. I don't know that there is a
better. I think it's simply a choice.

        

        From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Nathan
        Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 8:34 AM
        To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Subject: [isalist] OT: DHCP and static addresses

        

        To you network guys out there...

        

        When you give a device a static address, be it a server, switch,
printer etc., do you think it is better to hardcode the address into the
device or allocate the address using DHCP and the MAC address.

        

        Thanks

        

        Nathan

        
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