Tom, I took a look over at the site and doing a search on l2tp I could only turn up articles on using it to configure a gateway to gateway connection. I assumed when you ran the vpn wizard in ISA it set you up to accept both pptp and l2tp; and this seems to be the case, so I configured a client to vpn in l2tp and it seems to like it until it looks to present the client certificate. Do you have docs at the site for generating these and then installing them on the client in "non-exportable" "mode"? I couldnt find anything related to this. Much Thanks! Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas W Shinder" <tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 1:00 PM Subject: [isalist] RE: Limiting Who can connect via VPN http://www.ISAserver.org Hi Chris, There's a lot of stuff over at www.isaserver.org/shinder on setting up an L2TP/IPSec VPN. But if you're interested, I'm working on a project now that will make this a lot simplier for you to implement. If you're interested in settings up an L2TP/IPSec VPN, send me a message at insider@xxxxxxxxxxx and I have some beta material I can send you. Thanks! Tom Thomas W Shinder www.isaserver.org/shinder ISA Server and Beyond: http://tinyurl.com/1jq1 Configuring ISA Server: http://tinyurl.com/1llp -----Original Message----- From: Chris H [mailto:ntpro@xxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 11:39 AM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: Limiting Who can connect via VPN http://www.ISAserver.org Thanks Tom! any difference in what you recommend if we are using 2000 server? I assume there is a tut on isaserver.org on this? We are currently using pptp as I hadnt gotten into generating certificates yet . . . :( that can get deep and complex quick, right? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas W Shinder" <tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 12:23 PM Subject: [isalist] RE: Limiting Who can connect via VPN http://www.ISAserver.org Hi Chris, Use L2TP/IPSec -- do mark mark the keys as exportable and they won't be able to export the private key from the laptop. They then can copy the configs as much as they like, but if you require L2TP/IPSec, they won't be able to connect unless they use the laptop with the certificate. Also, they're probably using NAT, so unless they know about NAT-T, and you're using Windows Server 2003, and they install the NAT-T client, they'll fail to traverse the NAT. HTH, Tom Thomas W Shinder www.isaserver.org/shinder ISA Server and Beyond: http://tinyurl.com/1jq1 Configuring ISA Server: http://tinyurl.com/1llp -----Original Message----- From: Chris H [mailto:ntpro@xxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 11:20 AM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] Limiting Who can connect via VPN http://www.ISAserver.org If I have an ISA server enabled to allow VPN connections in from clients, what is the best (best meaning best mix of cost, ease of administration and ease of deployment) way to limit which computers users can make a vpn connection from? Some of our more savvy users are copying the vpn settings from their laptops and connecting via their home desktop computers which we dont want to allow as we cannot police those computers. Thoughts? 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