RE: ISA Server is not a Firewall !!! http://www.kbalertz.com/Feedback_832659.aspx

  • From: "Thor" <thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 08:04:45 -0700

The little camera on my PDA *smells* like fish, but I'm not gonna tell you
why.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Harrison" <jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, May 07, 2004 7:54 AM
Subject: [isalist] RE: ISA Server is not a Firewall !!!
http://www.kbalertz.com/Feedback_832659.aspx


> http://www.ISAserver.org
>
> A good firewall must include good router functionality in the same way a
fish must include a PDA.
> This article and issue arises because folks choose to use a product
outside of its design goals.
>
> You can scream in email all day long; it doesn't make you sound any more
believable.
>
> Disabling an alert does not stop the blocking action, just the alerts that
get generated from it.
> Learn to read what's written; not what you choose to make of it.
>
>  Jim Harrison
>  MCP(NT4, W2K), A+, Network+, PCG
>  http://www.microsoft.com/isaserver
>  http://isaserver.org/Jim_Harrison
>  http://isatools.org
>
>  Read the help, books and articles!
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Idan Plotnik" <idan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, May 07, 2004 04:45
> Subject: [isalist] RE: ISA Server is not a Firewall !!!
http://www.kbalertz.com/Feedback_832659.aspx
>
>
> http://www.ISAserver.org
>
> Hi Thomas,
>
> Yesterday I came back from TechEd in Israel, I believe in the way
> Microsoft works and I am working a lot with Microsoft products, in
> additional I am doing some works for Microsoft, but this issue is not
> relevant to my work, I mean that this kind of Bugs must be discover
> before the product is going in to the market and not after 2 or 3
> years!!! Don't you agree with me? Tell me something else, do you think
> it reasonable to disable the IP Spoof Detection option on a
> FIREWALL???!!!!???!!!! To enable another function to work properly????
>
> And by the way!!! A good Firewall must include a good router
> functions!!! It's not a separate function, When I read your line "but
> since you've confused firewalls with routers" I laugh because it's not a
> good way of thinking!!! There are a lot of people that thinks that
> Firewall just blocks ports or protocols and it's not true
>
> Thanks and have a good day.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Friday, May 07, 2004 1:00 PM
> To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> Subject: [isalist] RE: ISA Server is not a Firewall !!!
> http://www.kbalertz.com/Feedback_832659.aspx
>
> http://www.ISAserver.org
>
> Hi Idan,
>
> It's a good thing no other firewalls have any issues :-\
>
> This is the first time I've done this on this list, but since you've
> confused firewalls with routers, I have to say PLONK.
>
> HTH,
> Tom
>
> Thomas W Shinder
> www.isaserver.org/shinder
> ISA 2004 Beta - Get it now!
> http://www.microsoft.com/isaserver/beta/default.asp
> ISA Server and Beyond: http://tinyurl.com/1jq1 Configuring ISA Server:
> http://tinyurl.com/1llp
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Idan Plotnik [mailto:idan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Friday, May 07, 2004 5:57 AM
> To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> Subject: [isalist] ISA Server is not a Firewall !!!
> http://www.kbalertz.com/Feedback_832659.aspx
>
>
> http://www.ISAserver.org
>
> Hi all,
> I don't know if I need to laugh or to cry about this!!!
> This issue closed my opinion about ISA 2000, and my opinion about ISA
> 2000 is that its not a firewall !!!
> Someone has sometnig to say about this ?
> 832659 - The IP Spoof Detection feature in ISA Server 2000 may drop
> legal packets on systems that have multiple external interfaces
> Thanx
>
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