This (OSI Layer 8) is mostly the source off all problems. LOL. Never heard this words until now. Great LOL. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas W Shinder" <tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 3:52 AM Subject: [isalist] RE: ISA Reboots Periodically (losing confidence qui ckly) > http://www.ISAserver.org > > > Hi Shawn, > > BINGO. I'd put on my wish list a vendor certification process the proves > the add-on won't cause runaway firewall or Web proxy services. There are > a few unusual configs that generate KB articles that can cause service > problems, but I only very rarely run into them. The most common probems: > > 1. Misconfiguration -- true for all firewalls, not just ISA > 2. Layer 1 problems --hardware is broken, very common with cheapo > components flooding the market, even in high dollar hardware > 3. Layer 8 problems -- lack of skill and knowledge, as well as politics, > that cause problems with systems that we need to connect to > > I wouldn't even put primary ISA Server problems, that is to say, a clean > machine, in the top ten. > > HTH, > Tom > > Thomas W Shinder > www.isaserver.org/shinder > ISA Server and Beyond: http://tinyurl.com/1jq1 > Configuring ISA Server: http://tinyurl.com/1llp > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Quillman Shawn (RBNA/CIT1.1) * > [mailto:Shawn.Quillman@xxxxxxxxxxxx] > Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 12:22 PM > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] > Subject: [isalist] RE: ISA Reboots Periodically (losing confidence qui > ckly) > > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > > > Ditto. We've got 150,000ish people running through multiple ISA boxes > worldwide (for proxy). Works great. Installed for other clients also > with > great success. I would go so far as to say it's one of Microsoft's > premier > products in terms of stability. In my experience it simply does not go > down > without the help of third party forces. I'm not the world's greatest MS > fan, but definite Kudos to the ISA team. > > -Shawn > > ----- > Shawn R. Quillman > Robert Bosch Corporation RBNA/CIT1.1 > 38000 Hills Tech Drive > Farmington Hills, MI 48331 > (248) 553-1164 (P) (248) 848-2855 (F) > shawn.quillman@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > > -----Original Message----- > From: David V. Dellanno [mailto:ddellanno@xxxxxxxxxx] > Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 12:29 PM > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] > Subject: [isalist] RE: ISA Reboots Periodically (losing confidence > quickly) > > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > > Hi Mike, > I wouldn't throw your hands up just yet. I've had ISA working > since it's release. I have also install many ISA servers for companies > and I out of all the services ISA never had a reboot issue yet (knock on > sillicon). Now don't laugh but my ISA is sitting on a generic (built > with ME! two hands) P1 -166Mhz with 128MB, yes you heard it correctly, > P166 128MB, Windows 2000 Server and it has been rock solid. Yes its > definitely time for an upgrade but there are poor engineers out in the > world. With no unexpected reboot events (wooyoo!). > > Are all six ISA boxes reboot unexpectedly? Have you attempted > to install ISA on a complete different hardware system yet, to verify > that its not hardware related? What have you done so far for > touble-shooting? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mike-TechniSource [mailto:mike@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] > Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 11:19 AM > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] > Subject: [isalist] ISA Reboots Periodically (losing confidence quickly) > > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > > Hello, > > This is really getting on my nerves in a major way. > > About 2-3 times per day (sometimes more), our ISA Box reboots - and all > the Event Viewer can tell us, is that the "System Shutdown Unexpectedly" > (well no duh) - and there is nothing else of any value whatsoever, that > tells us what it may have been. > > This is totally unacceptable - and I need to get to the bottom of it. > Honestly - I've installed about 6 ISA Boxes - in several different > corporate environments - and I am quickly losing confidence in ISA > Server - as it just does not run like a true corporate firewall should. > In every case, we install the software in a Windows 2000 domain > environment, on ultra-quality Servers, SP1 & FP1, Windows 2000 SPx (the > latest), etc. We are always patched with the latest software upgrades, > and I own every ISA Book written (so needless to say, I do my homework). > What could this be? > > ISA Server may be wonderful - but it's only as good as the Machine, and > Operating System that it runs on top of. Maybe it's time to purchase an > Internet Appliance for this mission critical task - as I can't bank my > life on something that is unreliable. > > Is ISA Server truly a corporate solution??? Are all of you having good > luck in general with the Software? > > I searched the Infobase on MS's site - and it comes back with NOTHING > regarding random reboots, and other such topics. Is there anything I > can check, that can narrow down why this is happening to us? 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