Re: Firewall Service dies like clockwork

  • From: "Jim Harrison" <jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2002 21:32:02 -0800

I did forget to congratulate you for a nice bit of sleuthing, didn't I?
;-)

 Jim Harrison
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Phill Hardstaff 
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  Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 10:22 PM
  Subject: [isalist] Re: Firewall Service dies like clockwork


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  Jim, yeah most likely, but the reports are not running on the ISA server, I 
don't know if I made that real clear ? but if you mean by bogging it down with 
thousands of DNS queries a second then yes, but like I siad, it was never an 
issue with my old firewall, I'm just glad I found it :)

  Phill
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Jim Harrison 
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    Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 4:16 PM
    Subject: [isalist] Re: Firewall Service dies like clockwork


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    Take another look at the perf logs; I'll bet WebTrends is sucking the life 
out of your ISA while it creates all those reports for you.

     Jim Harrison
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      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Phill Hardstaff 
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      Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 8:57 PM
      Subject: [isalist] Firewall Service dies like clockwork


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      I posted something about 3 months back about how my firewall service 
stopped working at 0200h every Sunday morning and would not come back up until 
0430h with a reboot or restart the Firewall service. Anyway, after months of 
pulling my hair out I finally nailed it, and looking back over some posts on 
the list about problems with the firewall service I believe others are probably 
having this problem as well.

      What happens : 0200h Sunday morning, firewall service dies, web proxy 
still runs OK, can still access web site by IP, published servers stop working 
etc.

      Last Friday I ran a Webtrends report on my web server, which is behind 
the firewall, this is also my DNS server, this was during the day, within 10 
minutes I had these same symptoms that I outlined above, I stopped and 
restarted the firewall, I rebooted it but it would just die straight away. I 
had hadn't made the link with Webtrends yet, but I shutdown the web server and 
while it was off found I could stop and start the firewall service and IT 
WORKED. I bought the web server back up and had a look at Webtrends and found I 
had all my reports set to run at 0200h Sunday morning (they run sequentially), 
boy was I happy. I disabled all the Webtrends reports and shut down the 
scheduler. By this time I had to leave work to catch a plane, I checked on 
Sunday morning and for the first time in 3-4 months the firewall service didn't 
stop at 0200h on Sunday morning.

      Why ? Webtrends does DNS lookups while running to resolve IP's from the 
log files, you can turn this off but I have had it running like this for about 
3 years and never had any problems with my last firewall (Guardian), it seems 
that a big flood of DNS lookups kills the firewall service ? because this is 
all that is happening. It just seems to loose the plot :)

      Any feedback appreciated, I would like to run my reports again.

      Phill

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