That usually happen when you copy objects from one array to another one and there was an object with the same name on the target. Regards Diego R. Pietruszka MSC (USA) - Interlink Transport Technologies From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ball, Dan Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 11:06 AM To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [isalist] Re: "Domain Controllers" in ISA 2004 Speaking of which, I have two of those, "Domain Controllers" and "Domain Controllers(1)" on my system... Hmmmmm ________________________________ From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rob Moore Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 9:57 PM To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: [isalist] Re: "Domain Controllers" in ISA 2004 Here's what I'm experiencing. We have somewheres around 15 DCs in the domain. Two of them are on the local subnet. I recently retired one of the two local DCs. Then I noticed that our Internet connection got real slow--mainly a delay of, say, 20 seconds before a page would load. I started poking around with DNS. If I changed the WAN card on the firewall to point at an external DNS server, the web sped up a bunch. But you probably know that this isn't a good arrangement and pretty soon thereafter we got other problems happening. So I pointed DNS on the WAN card back to the LAN address on the firewall. The other problems went away but slow access came back. So I poked around on the firewall a bit and found that Domain Controllers computer set. I noticed that the list in there was out of date, and both of the DCs on the local domain that were in that list are now retired. So I'm guessing (maybe incorrectly) that that somehow bears on this problem--like maybe the ISA server is now trying to talk to DCs on remote subnets since it can't find the two DCs on the local subnet. So I was hoping if I could edit that computer set I could make the problem go away. Anyway, that's what's happening. Maybe I'm way off base? Any suggestions? Rob ________________________________ From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Thomas W Shinder Sent: Tue 3/6/2007 3:54 PM To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [isalist] Re: "Domain Controllers" in ISA 2004 http://www.ISAserver.org <http://www.isaserver.org/> ------------------------------------------------------- The domain controllers computer set is one of the great mysteries of the ISA firewall. You won't find any documentation about it and many will deny its existance. Never bring it up in polite company. Thomas W Shinder, M.D. Site: www.isaserver.org Blog: http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/ Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7 MVP -- Microsoft Firewalls (ISA) > -----Original Message----- > From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rob Moore > Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 1:23 PM > To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [isalist] Re: "Domain Controllers" in ISA 2004 > > http://www.ISAserver.org <http://www.isaserver.org/> > ------------------------------------------------------- > > Can this field not be edited? Is the ISA server supposed to > pick up the > DCs automatically? What's the mechanism for that? Is there > something in > my configuration that's not allowing this to happen? > > Thanks, > Rob > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rob Moore > Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 1:18 PM > To: 'isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' > Subject: RE: [isalist] Re: "Domain Controllers" in ISA 2004 > > I have a stand-alone Standard edition server. I was trying to edit it > from the ISA 2004 console. > > Rob > > -----Original Message----- > From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > On Behalf Of Jim Harrison > Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 12:55 PM > To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [isalist] Re: "Domain Controllers" in ISA 2004 > > http://www.ISAserver.org <http://www.isaserver.org/> > ------------------------------------------------------- > > Where are you editing from; array or enterprise level? > > -----Original Message----- > From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > On Behalf Of Rob Moore > Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 9:10 AM > To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [isalist] "Domain Controllers" in ISA 2004 > > I have a Computer Set in my ISA 2004 called "Domain Controllers." The > list is inaccurate, and I think it's starting to cause us > some trouble. > But I can't seem to edit it. 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