Hi Hugo, Last time I looked, Win2k didn't support BGP :-) Thanks! Tom www.isaserver.org/shinder Thomas W Shinder, M.D., MCSE, MCT -----Original Message----- From: Hugo Caye [mailto:Hugo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Monday, August 06, 2001 5:08 PM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] Re: Black Magic in ISA Server Benchmark Tests http://www.ISAserver.org It will work only if Win2K supports a BGP4-like protocol. -----Original Message----- From: Thomas W. Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: domingo, 5 de agosto de 2001 23:42 To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] Re: Black Magic in ISA Server Benchmark Tests http://www.ISAserver.org Hi Mark, But we still have THREE external interfaces. Try this at home: Connect three external interfaces to your ISA Server and connect them to three different ISPs. Unless you're having a very good day, it won't work. Of course, maybe its working here because the responses are coming back from clients on a directly connected network? But that doesn't make sense to be either, since ISA only uses a single external address to present to the world. Of course, maybe the 20,000+ ISA Server posts I've read, I missed the one from the guy that got multiple external interfaces working :-) Tom www.isaserver.org/shinder Thomas W Shinder, M.D., MCSE, MCT -----Original Message----- From: Mark Strangways [mailto:strangconst@xxxxxxxx] Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2001 9:32 PM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] Re: Black Magic in ISA Server Benchmark Tests http://www.ISAserver.org Ok, my 10 cents worth, three external Nics with network as 192.168.100.00 /24 192.168.101.00 /24, 192.168.103.0 /24 theses then appear to go to 100mbit switches, then to clients and back to router. From what I see three separate 100mBit networks, not one network. Or perhaps I'm not seeing it correctly ? If they were three separate networks then teaming would not be requires ? As a side note. Boy would I like to have all that hardware :) regards, Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas W. Shinder" <tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2001 10:02 PM Subject: [isalist] Re: Black Magic in ISA Server Benchmark Tests http://www.ISAserver.org Hi Jim, Yep! I forgot to mention that one. It says right here in my "readme.htm" that the install is going to do that. :-) Tom www.isaserver.org/shinder Thomas W Shinder, M.D., MCSE, MCT -----Original Message----- From: Jim Harrison [mailto:jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2001 8:45 PM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] Re: Black Magic in ISA Server Benchmark Tests http://www.ISAserver.org I also like the "MS team" changing the MaxPort value to 65536, the same value that ISA sets when it installs... Jim Harrison MCP(2K), A+, Network+, PCG ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas W. Shinder" <tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2001 5:33 PM Subject: [isalist] Re: Black Magic in ISA Server Benchmark Tests http://www.ISAserver.org Hi Jim, Could be, or else they aggregated the performance from each individual interface. But I do like the teaming hypothesis, because it would solve the mystery of the multiple interfaces. Now, if I could only figure out the clients are using the Firewall client software to connect to the external interface ;-) Tom www.isaserver.org/shinder Thomas W Shinder, M.D., MCSE, MCT -----Original Message----- From: Jim Harrison [mailto:jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2001 7:09 PM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] Re: Black Magic in ISA Server Benchmark Tests http://www.ISAserver.org Given the stated throughput (~300 Mbits/sec), they had to have been teaming the NICs. You just can't push 300 Mbits/sec through a 100Mbit/sec pipe without shaving off 200 Mbits/sec (wonder where they go?). Jim Harrison MCP(2K), A+, Network+, PCG ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas W. Shinder" <tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2001 4:46 PM Subject: [isalist] Black Magic in ISA Server Benchmark Tests http://www.ISAserver.org Hey Everyone, Head on over to the Microsoft ISA Server site at: http://www.microsoft.com/isaserver/evaluation/competitive/exodus.asp Interesting stuff and good stats on throughput and connection rates. However, there's some pretty funky stuff going down in the testing methodology: 1. The clients are on the untrusted (external) network. 2. The clients, even though they are on the external network, are using the Firewall Client ?!?! 3. The servers are all on the internal (trusted network) 4. It doesn't say if they used Server or Web Publishing to make the Web Servers on the internal network available to the external network clients 5. Although the clients are using the Firewall client, it doesn't state if they were Web Proxy clients 6. It doesn't say what mode the ISA Server was running 7. It doesn't say if the clients were configured as Web Proxy clients 8. It doesn't say what the status was of the HTTP Redirector Filter 9. They somehow miraculously have multiple external interfaces working! 10. They don't say if they used interface teaming on the Intel adapters :-) [maybe that's how they got multiple external interface to work? 11. They mention a problem with the 'client' software not being able to connect to the Servers because there might have been a problem with using a HOSTS file rather than DNS. Why didn't they just type in the IP address of the 'external' interface of the ISA Server and forget about the overhead of name resolution? Otherwise, it was a pretty good article :-) HTH, Tom www.isaserver.org/shinder Thomas W Shinder, M.D., MCSE, MCT -----Original Message----- From: Jim Harrison [mailto:jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2001 6:14 PM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] Re: AD through firewalls http://www.ISAserver.org Maybe I wasn't being specific enough; for me it's an OE issue since that's what I use for the newsgroups and the lists. The point is, there's a wrap default to OE and probably other email apps when using NEWS, POP and SMTP. All you have to do is go look for it. Jim Harrison MCP(2K), A+, Network+, PCG ----- Original Message ----- From: "Skeeve Stevens" <skeeve@xxxxxxxxxx> To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2001 2:55 PM Subject: [isalist] Re: AD through firewalls http://www.ISAserver.org It is not an OE issue. I am using Outlook XP and it still happens. Same as 2k .Skeeve > -----Original Message----- > From: Jim Harrison [mailto:jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx] > Sent: Monday, August 06, 2001 3:09 AM > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] > Subject: [isalist] Re: AD through firewalls > > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > > It's an OE issue; it wraps the line at 76 chars by default. > I've changed my settings before to 132 chars, but it makes > the mail almost unreadable to everyone else who wraps their mail. > > Jim Harrison > MCP(2K), A+, Network+, PCG > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark Strangways" <strangconst@xxxxxxxx> > To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2001 9:52 AM > Subject: [isalist] Re: AD through firewalls > > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > > Jim is there a way to keep the URL's together on the page ? > It seems that long url's as below, will not fit in one line > and then the url is NFG after that ! > > Any idea's ? > > Mark > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim Harrison" <jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2001 12:49 PM > Subject: [isalist] AD through firewalls > > > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > > > > > There is an interesting technet article that discusses the > issues with > > and options for allowing AD replication though firewalls. It makes > > for a very interesting read... > > > http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/tec hnet/ittasks/t > asks/adrepfir.asp > > Jim Harrison > MCP(2K), A+, Network+, PCG > > > > ------------------------------------------------------ > You are currently subscribed to this ISAserver.org Discussion List as: strangconst@xxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > $subst('Email.Unsub') ------------------------------------------------------ You are currently subscribed to this ISAserver.org Discussion List as: jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send a blank email to $subst('Email.Unsub') ------------------------------------------------------ You are currently subscribed to this ISAserver.org Discussion List as: skeeve@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send a blank email to $subst('Email.Unsub') ------------------------------------------------------ You are currently subscribed to this ISAserver.org Discussion List as: jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send a blank email to $subst('Email.Unsub') ------------------------------------------------------ You are currently subscribed to this ISAserver.org Discussion List as: tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send a blank email to $subst('Email.Unsub') ------------------------------------------------------ You are currently subscribed to this ISAserver.org Discussion List as: jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send a blank email to $subst('Email.Unsub') ------------------------------------------------------ You are currently subscribed to this ISAserver.org Discussion List as: tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send a blank email to $subst('Email.Unsub') ------------------------------------------------------ You are currently subscribed to this ISAserver.org Discussion List as: jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send a blank email to $subst('Email.Unsub') ------------------------------------------------------ You are currently subscribed to this ISAserver.org Discussion List as: tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send a blank email to $subst('Email.Unsub') ------------------------------------------------------ You are currently subscribed to this ISAserver.org Discussion List as: strangconst@xxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send a blank email to $subst('Email.Unsub') ------------------------------------------------------ You are currently subscribed to this ISAserver.org Discussion List as: tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send a blank email to $subst('Email.Unsub') ------------------------------------------------------ You are currently subscribed to this ISAserver.org Discussion List as: Hugo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send a blank email to $subst('Email.Unsub') ------------------------------------------------------ You are currently subscribed to this ISAserver.org Discussion List as: tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send a blank email to $subst('Email.Unsub')