RE: Arg! Will they never learn?

  • From: "Amy Babinchak" <amy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2006 17:49:32 -0500

 

I understand your point. I just didn't see that her point had anything
at all to do with ISA. So the article doesn't apply, so what? 

 

I'd be more likely to recommend VPN to my clients if VPN were not such a
hassle. I'm back from a short vacation and ready to tackle my first
permanent VPN tunnel from an ISA server for a client to their VAN (a VAN
is the go between for EDI transactions for those that don't have to deal
with these monsters). Been putting it off because I know it's going to
cause me nightmares. Can you believe that the VAN requires a permanent
tunnel through which to send files via FTP? I understand trying to
secure FTP traffic but I really don't like the idea that we have to keep
the tunnel available at all times, just in case they have a file to
transfer.  

 

Amy

 

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From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 5:15 PM
To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
Subject: [isalist] RE: Arg! Will they never learn?

 

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Hi Amy,

 

Because ISA SP2 is all about branch office deployments, and that post
somehow artlesses munged remote access connections with branch office
connections.

 

Why you're referring to by the virtual branch office is something I'm
seeing more and more. But its not the same as branch office
connectivity, where you connect an entire network to your network in a
routed VPN connection. Now, that said, I like the idea of a "virtual"
VPN connection between branch and main office using Web proxy chaining,
Firewall chaining, and Web/Server Publishing Rules. If we could get
Firewall chaining to work right...

 

Tom

 

Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
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Blog: http://spaces.msn.com/members/drisa/
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MVP -- ISA Firewalls

 

 

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From: Amy Babinchak [mailto:amy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 3:31 PM
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Subject: [isalist] RE: Arg! Will they never learn?

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What does this have to do with ISA? 'Tis true that small businesses are
going "virtual" instead of opening another brick and mortar branch
office. I'm seeing what would have been branch offices in days gone by
now operating as virtual offices. One of my clients has closed 2 branch
offices in favor of the virtual office and added employees in the
process. It makes sense now that high speed internet access is easier to
come by. The #1, second server going into small enterprises is terminal
server. But this isn't an ISA question. 

 

Amy

 

Technology Consultant, 

President and ISA MVP

 

Harbor Computer Services

Small Business Computer Specialists

 

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Website: http://www.harborcomputerservices.net/

 

 

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From: John T (Lists) [mailto:johnlist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2006 1:48 AM
To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
Subject: [isalist] RE: Arg! Will they never learn?

 

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With all the crap talk that goes on the SBS list, I think you are
correct. ISA should have been left out entirely as it was left open ripe
for abuse.

 

John T

eServices For You

 

"Seek, and ye shall find!"

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Greg Mulholland [mailto:greg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 10:11 PM
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Subject: [isalist] RE: Arg! Will they never learn?

 

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You know sometimes I wonder whether it was the right decision to include
an enterprise level firewall in a "small" business package! 

 

Greg Mulholland

 

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From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Sat 4/02/2006 4:29 PM
To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
Subject: [isalist] Arg! Will they never learn?

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You know, I thought I read something about there being a difference
between REMOTE ACCESS and BRANCH OFFICE connectivity infrastructures. I
guess it was a dream, 'cause I just read this:

 

http://msmvps.com/blogs/bradley/archive/2006/02/03/82463.aspx

 

It's been a long, arduous week and that was just about the best was to
punish myself for trying to think I could survive it.

Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
Site: www.isaserver.org <http://www.isaserver.org/> 
Blog: http://spaces.msn.com/members/drisa/
Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7 <http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7> 
MVP -- ISA Firewalls

 

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