You know, I thought I read something about there being a difference between REMOTE ACCESS and BRANCH OFFICE connectivity infrastructures. I guess it was a dream, 'cause I just read this: http://msmvps.com/blogs/bradley/archive/2006/02/03/82463.aspx It's been a long, arduous week and that was just about the best was to punish myself for trying to think I could survive it. Thomas W Shinder, M.D. Site: www.isaserver.org <http://www.isaserver.org/> Blog: http://spaces.msn.com/members/drisa/ Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7 <http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7> MVP -- ISA Firewalls