Using v15.1, mostly using static shapes similar to methods in v14.2. What I do is void element, then drag-select all the elements, and it basically autovoids (even says autovoid down in the command line). However, what this method won't do is void around route keepouts. How do you get static shapes to void around route keepouts? Patrick Westfeldt, Jr. North Boulder Circuit Design westfeldt_nbcd@xxxxxxxxx 720-406-0887 c 720-272-5822