We use a non-etch layer for the text and a route keepout to remove etch above it. Echo both on when producing the gerbers. -- George Patrick Tektronix, Inc. Central Engineering, PCB Design Group P.O. Box 500, M/S 39-512 Beaverton, OR 97077-0001 Phone: 503-627-5272 Fax: 503-627-5587 <http://www.tektronix.com/> http://www.tektronix.com <http://www.pcb-designer.com/> http://www.pcb-designer.com It's my opinion, not Tektronix' -----Original Message----- From: westfeldt [mailto:westfeldt_nbcd@xxxxxxxxx] Sent: Monday, September 20, 2004 09:23 To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [PCB_FORUM] negative text in positive plane How do you do negative text in a positive plane, so that all you see are the negative letters? Patrick Westfeldt, Jr. North Boulder Circuit Design westfeldt_nbcd@xxxxxxxxx 720-406-0887 c 720-272-5822