One addition to the selective alt_symbol: Create a text file with a .lst extension with all the reference designators. Maybe foo.lst. When you want to change the group, start the "Move" command, click on the "Find" tab, select "Symbol(or Pin)" in the Find By Name box, and change "Name" to "List" next to the box. Now enter the text file name (if you used the ".lst" extension you don't have to enter it.) Change back to "Name" when done or you will have problems when you go to enter a reference designator. Allegro will read the list and highlight all the reference designators in the list file. You will have to click the reference point, change to the alt_sym, and select the destination point (or type "ix 0") as below. -- George Patrick Tektronix, Inc. Central Engineering, EDS Applications Support P.O. Box 500, M/S 39-512 Beaverton, OR 97077-0001 * 503-627-5272 (voice) * 503-627-5587 (fax) http://www.tektronix.com http://www.pcb-designer.com "Off-Grid and Proud of it!" -----Original Message----- From: icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Macindoe, Gary 1) Get in the Move command 2) In the Find tab at right, in the "Find Buy Name" field, pull-down to "Symtype", then click the More button. 3) In the window that comes up, choose the symbol name (i.e. "0603"), then click OK (all of the chosen symbols in your design will highlight). 4) Now, click on a reference point (all of the symbols are "picked up"), then RMB to "Alt Symbol", then click back on the reference point to set all of the symbols down in their original location. ----------------------------------------------------------- To subscribe/unsubscribe: Send a message to icu-pcb-forum-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with a subject of subscribe or unsubscribe To view the archives of this list go to //www.freelists.org/archives/icu-pcb-forum/ Problems or Questions: Send an email to icu-pcb-forum-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx -----------------------------------------------------------