Hi Julian, Let's see if I understand your explanation. If I want the clock to be, as you say, 1" longer than the matched length of the group (which is, say, +-100) I would use delta of 1000 on the clock line only to increase it's length, and the rest of the group has a tolerance of 100. In this case, setting the clock as a target would not work, as you can't specify an offset...and delta is really an offset. So, tolerance is +- whatever value is there....delta is absolute, as in, if you specify a delta -1000, that signal will be shorter than the other members of match group by 1 inch, if you specify a delta of 1000, that signal will be longer than the group by 1". Is that was you were getting at? If so, I'll have to think a bit more about that, but it seems a reasonable methodology of specifying that case. Thanks for the explanation! Regards, Austin > -----Original Message----- > From: Julian Ungureanu (jungurea) [mailto:jungurea@xxxxxxxxx] > Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2005 10:17 AM > To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: Difference between "delta" and "tolerance" in > Relative Propagation Delay > > > Austin, > I believe Delta is meant to be used when you have a say bus and > you attached > a match length > Group; you include in your group the clock that goes along with > the data bus > let's say. > You want the clock to be skewed by 1" say. So all the nets are > part of that > matched group, included the clock; but the clock has Delta of 1". > The whole group has a tolerance of 100 mils. > > My 2 cents, > Julian > > -----Original Message----- > From: Austin Franklin [mailto:austin@xxxxxxxxxxxx] > Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 7:39 PM > To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Difference between "delta" and "tolerance" > in Relative > Propagation Delay > > Hi, > > What is the functional difference between "delta" and "tolerance" in the > constraint manager "relative propagation delay" worksheet? The examples > (and explanations) they give seem like they could be implemented with > either... > > For example: > > three signals A, B, C. Say C is target of 1", and I want a > length match of > .1 on A & B to C. I could set either delta OR tolerance to .1, > and get what > I want. > > Again, three signals, A, B, C. C target of 1". I set delta to .1, and > tolerance to 10 mils. What is different doing that than simply setting > either delta or tolerance to 110? > > Regards, > > Austin > > > ----------------------------------------------------------- > To subscribe/unsubscribe: > Send a message to icu-pcb-forum-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > with a subject of subscribe or unsubscribe > > To view the archives of this list please login at //www.freelists.org. Our list name is icu-pcb-forum or go to //www.freelists.org/archives/icu-pcb-forum/ Problems or Questions: Send an email to icu-pcb-forum-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Want to post a job listing ? DON'T DO IT HERE! Better yet, join our jobs listing forum. SUBSCRIBE: icu-jobs-forum-subscribe@xxxxxxxxxx POST: icu-jobs-forum@xxxxxxxxxx ----------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------- To subscribe/unsubscribe: Send a message to icu-pcb-forum-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with a subject of subscribe or unsubscribe To view the archives of this list please login at //www.freelists.org. Our list name is icu-pcb-forum or go to //www.freelists.org/archives/icu-pcb-forum/ Problems or Questions: Send an email to icu-pcb-forum-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Want to post a job listing ? DON'T DO IT HERE! Better yet, join our jobs listing forum. SUBSCRIBE: icu-jobs-forum-subscribe@xxxxxxxxxx POST: icu-jobs-forum@xxxxxxxxxx ----------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------- To subscribe/unsubscribe: Send a message to icu-pcb-forum-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with a subject of subscribe or unsubscribe To view the archives of this list please login at //www.freelists.org. Our list name is icu-pcb-forum or go to //www.freelists.org/archives/icu-pcb-forum/ Problems or Questions: Send an email to icu-pcb-forum-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Want to post a job listing ? DON'T DO IT HERE! Better yet, join our jobs listing forum. SUBSCRIBE: icu-jobs-forum-subscribe@xxxxxxxxxx POST: icu-jobs-forum@xxxxxxxxxx -----------------------------------------------------------