No, CM as in Contract Manufacturer...the folks responsible for actually making the part stick to the board:-) ________________________________ From: icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Macindoe, Gary Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 11:02 AM To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: 0402, 0603 round pads Jean, Do you mean CM as in Component Manufacturer? Well, I have design guidelines from Celestica and Solectron (both 3-4 years old). They both show square/rectangular pads for all discrete SMT shapes. Our little group here in CO is about to be assimilated into the mother corp. as far as fab/assembly is concerned, and I don't even know at this time who to ask about the round pad thing. I was wondering if it was a lead free thing for wave soldering. Regards, Gary Gary E. MacIndoe PCB Design Engineer Longmont, Colorado amd.com gary.macindoe@xxxxxxx ________________________________ From: icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jean Bratton Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 4:33 PM To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: 0402, 0603 round pads I've seen 0402's with cut corners so they fit within the pin escape pattern of a 1mm bga, but that's all. What does your CM have to say? ________________________________ From: icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Macindoe, Gary Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 6:05 PM To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [PCB_FORUM] 0402, 0603 round pads Hey guys, Man has it been quiet (or am I not receiving forum e-mails?). So, I've been looking at some designs from a couple of other groups within the company. Both of them have their 0402 and 0603 foot prints with round pads (0402 = rd25). Is anyone out there also using round pads for 0402s and 0603s, and why? They have oval pads for their 0805s and 1206s also. I still have square or rectangular for all of the above. Could it have something to do with lead free? Thanks and Happy New Year! Gary Gary E. MacIndoe PCB Design Engineer Longmont, Colorado amd.com gary.macindoe@xxxxxxx