[icon-discuss] Re: icon/bp future a suggestion:
- From: "Marc Mulcahy" <marc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <poehlman1@xxxxxxxxxxx>, "'ryan'" <bk4mee@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 09:17:14 -0600
David:
Visual display is something we've thought about a lot, and for which we've
had lots of requests. I think the best of all worlds would be to not
include display hardware in the Icon and BP themselves, but either use some
sort of portable display or a PC for display.
Marc
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> [mailto:icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Poehlman
> Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 7:57 AM
> To: ryan
> Cc: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: icon/bp future a suggestion:
>
> Why cdan't we make sugestions without having to deffend them
> to the gills? So be it then. If you are selling a product,
> you want the product to get the most sales it can get. If I
> were purchasing for a government agency I would dissallow the
> icon because it does not meet the standards of accessibility.
> The fed and the states that support the regulations as well
> as many other entities will only purchase products which
> allow them to comply with those regulations. The icon/ bp
> currently do not fall into this category.
>
> I think I asked for braille support a while back and got shot
> down before but we have it now so why shoot the messenger?
> I'm only expressing the desires of many who are not on the
> list and who have
> expressed this to me and others. This is not my opinion, it
> is fact.
> More sales would be gained providing much needed capitol to
> make te products even more superb than they already are.
>
> I'll say no more on this topic.
>
> On Apr 22, 2009, at 9:16 AM, ryan wrote:
>
> No, No, I don't think that sighted people should be able to
> see what's happening on the Icon or Braille-plus. What does
> it matter anyway, they don't use it so what is there reasons
> why they would want to see whats going on. On Wed, 22 Apr
> 2009 06:58:25 -0400, David Poehlman wrote:
>
>
> > Sighted people are not purchasing icons primarily because
> they don't
> > have video capability. In other words, many products for the blind
> > are purchased by sighted people for blind people. I remember an
> > evolution in a product I will not name where a lot of the
> stuff that
> > was not shown was written so that it was shown because the sighted
> > folk making the decisions were shying away from the product because
> > this stuff was not shown.
> >
> > I am not advocating an screen. A display would be helpful
> perhaps a
> > usb one but what we need is the ability to connect to a
> monitor (usb
> > again), and the ability to process video content for a variety of
> > reasons.
> >
> > This has been a high priority since before the inception of
> the ICon/
> > bp for many people. Another reason for it is that there
> are lots of
> > folk out there making the transition from screen to speech,
> they would
> > benefit from the ability to use video while making that transition.
> >
> > On Apr 22, 2009, at 6:49 AM, Rich Ring wrote:
> >
> > Are sighted people purchasing Icons? Is the Icon being marketed to
> > sighted people?
> > Are sighted individuals comfortable with Braille displays?
> If in fact
> > they are not, do we need flat screens on them so as to lower their
> > anxiety?
> > Somehow, I don't think so.
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Poehlman"
> > <poehlman1@xxxxxxxxxxx
> >>
> > To: <icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 8:31 AM
> > Subject: [icon-discuss] icon/bp future a suggestion:
> >
> >
> >> I read this morning that a new digital tv transmission
> capability is
> >> coming for handhelds. I therefore reitterate my earlier
> suggestion
> >> for this and other reasons:
> >>
> >> We need display and video reproduction capability on the
> icon. One
> >> thing that makes sighted folk nervous about the icon is that they
> >> cannot see what is going on. if we give them that and if
> we can get
> >> this new tv on our icon/bps, that would be a great selling point
> >> along with printing and embossing capability, gps and cell access.
> >>
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