[ibis-macro] Re: BIRD124.1, modified to use Tables as clarified in the Table BIRD

  • From: "Muranyi, Arpad" <Arpad_Muranyi@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "IBIS-ATM" <ibis-macro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 10:09:47 -0700

Walter,

 

I agree that we need to do something for the Dependency Table

to make it work.  I see in your BIRD 124.1 draft that you define

several predefined AMI parameters and one of them is "[Corner]":

 

 

"[Corner]" is a predefined AMI parameter of Type Corner that can be used
to create an input column in a Dependency Table. Its column shall have
Type Corner. Its allowed values are Typ, Slow and Fast.

 

 

This is perfectly OK (aside from the question of perhaps using

a better name for it to avoid confusions with "Format Corner").

 

What I was picking on was that you defined this predefined

parameter as "Type Corner" in your BIRD draft, which is incorrect,

because there is no such Type currently in the spec.  If this

can only be done through a "Type Corner", your BIRD has to define

that new "Type" (which I don't see in your BIRD yet).

 

Thanks,

 

Arpad

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From: Walter Katz [mailto:wkatz@xxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 11:16 AM
To: Muranyi, Arpad; 'IBIS-ATM'
Subject: RE: [ibis-macro] Re: BIRD124.1, modified to use Tables as
clarified in the Table BIRD

 

Arpad,

 

If we want to allow [Corner] (and I think this is useful) as a special
Dependency Independent variable, then we would need to add a new Type
Corner.

 

Walter

 

From: ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Muranyi, Arpad
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 12:09 PM
To: IBIS-ATM
Subject: [ibis-macro] Re: BIRD124.1, modified to use Tables as clarified
in the Table BIRD

 

Walter,

 

Strictly speaking no, talking about "Type Corner" is not correct.

The 5.0 specification only defines the following types on pg. 140:

 

 

 

 

 

Also, "Corner" is defined as "Format":

 

 

 

 

If you want to call "Corner" a "Type", we will have to define it as

such.  If Bob's Table syntax BIRD uses the word "Type" incorrectly,

we will need to change that BIRD draft too.  But as far as I can tell,

Bob's BIRD draft is correct, because the point there is to allow

one or more Types (Float, Integer, String, Boolean, UI) for the

columns of the table.  Please let me know if I am missing something...

 

Thanks,

 

Arpad

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From: Walter Katz [mailto:wkatz@xxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 5:41 AM
To: Muranyi, Arpad; 'IBIS-ATM'
Subject: RE: [ibis-macro] Re: BIRD124.1, modified to use Tables as
clarified in the Table BIRD

 

Arpad,

 

Interesting point, but I do think that Type Corner is correct, although
a better explanation will be required.  The new Table syntax says that
one needs a Type for each column. This is a special case that we can
discuss. The alternative is to make the user do something like:

 

(My_Corner (Corner "typ"  "min" "max") (Type String) (Usage Info)
(Description "Parameter to be used in Dependency Tables"))

 

The Dependency Table would have a column "My_Corner In", instead of
[Corner]. I can live with either method.

 

Walter

 

From: ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Muranyi, Arpad
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 12:33 AM
To: IBIS-ATM
Subject: [ibis-macro] Re: BIRD124.1, modified to use Tables as clarified
in the Table BIRD

 

Walter,

 

I was working on something else, but I looked in this BIRD

draft and noticed something I you need to correct.

 

There is no such thing as "Type Corner".  You mentioned that

twice.  There is "Format Corner" only...

 

Thanks,

 

Arpad

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From: ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Walter Katz
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 7:51 AM
To: IBIS-ATM
Subject: [ibis-macro] BIRD124.1, modfied to use Tables as calrified in
the Table BIRD

 

All,

 

I have updated BIRD124 to use format Table. This is a clear improvement
in the syntax.

 

Walter

 

Walter Katz

wkatz@xxxxxxxxxx

Phone 303.449-2308

Mobile 720.333-1107

 

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