On 2013-09-07 at 09:40:09 [+0200], gs@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote: > Ryan Leavengood <leavengood@xxxxxxxxx> writes: > > > I agree, but that discussion isn't necessarily relevant to Haiku. I do > > think we have strived to create Haiku to serve the user and the user > > alone. > Yes. The reason I like to bring it up from time to time is that it > really shouldn't be taken for granted. Examples of things that happen > when we put ethics in the back seat are practices such as Tivoization, > or the proliferation of peripherals that require non-free firmware to > work. Speaking of which, what might the FSF be referring to when they > say Haiku includes software that you're not allowed to modify? > (https://gnu.org/distros/common-distros.html) > > I think the issue should be clarified, and if incorrect, to notify the > FSF. I know FSF endorsement might not be a realistic short-term goal, > but I think Haiku should receive recognition for what it does. I guess this includes the "Be Sample Code" licenced stuff (https://www.ohloh.net/licenses/be-sample-code). This is a 3-clause BSD, which is not compatible with the GPL. We also include binay "blob" firmware drivers and we are not actually trying to provide a 100%-free software system, our package manager will allow distribution of proprietary software. Notice how the FSF doesn't endorse any of the popular GNU/Linux or BSD distributions, this is because complying to their very strict rules would mean a lot of lacking functionality, in areas where no suitable free software replacement for proprietary software is available. While it is a good thing that the FSF tries to see what are the missing parts and finding a way to solve the problem, we decided to get things working first, and look about that later. -- Adrien.