On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 6:35 PM, Ryan Leavengood <leavengood@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > I have another concern with these hidden windows: it makes application > scripting more difficult, since frequently the first window (Window 0) > ends up being the hidden file panel. Those "bad surprise" moments are > the sort of thing I think we should avoid in Haiku. Though I can > concede that most people are probably not using the hey command that > much to script things (but I'm not really sure.) I would argue that's a broken script ; the index order of the windows can change for any number of reasons (i.e. an app that opens some form of initial setup window the first time it's run, or detects some error condition, changes to the app in a new version, etc.). There's a good reason scripting includes the ability to ask for the window count, the name of each window, and various other attributes. Regards, Rene